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Hello everyone, Is anyone here active on Discord? If so, please reply, here. I'll send you all a PM for an upcoming Orthodox project when it is complete.

Thank you, that makes a lot of sense.

Hello all, Question: Do the two angels in some versions of the "extreme humility" icon represent the sun and moon, as they do in the Crucifixion icon? Or something else?

Interesting, so these are held sort of in place of candles?

Thanks for the input--I've seen hand/home censers before, but never one that seemed designed to look like a lamp and with a fish-snake handle.

Is anyone familiar with this odd, lamp-like censer type? Is it used like a normal censer? This is one example of a few I've seen. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Orthodox-Censer-Incense-Burner-Christian-Brass-Church-With-Cross-Greek-7709B/142274624204?hash=item21203a7acc:g:i7QAAOxy0NtTBihn

When we say "Christ is a divine hypostasis" I think what we are doing is emphasizing that he is pre-eternal and the Logos, and that this is the same hypostasis that becomes human (as opposed to one that comes into being at the incarnation). So I think it is more about emphasis than strict...

I don't think you know how a dowry works.

Yes

If you're interested, there is a little experiment you can do that may help you, or at least provide you with insight.

Buy a pressure cooker or instant pot and make your life a whole lot easier. Step 1: Soak beans overnight, discard soaking water. Step 2: Pressure cook for 1-3 whistles depending on your bean.

Of the sort we have, it probably is.

We are not a church of austerity and minimalism.

Fair points, though "breathing" in the wrong environment did cause the entire icon to warp inward (If only they'd used splines.). So I think I can put together a kiot. Thanks for the tips.

Breathe? Is it really "worth" that sort of investment, given its age and condition?

That makes an enormous amount of sense! Thank you. So this icon is a swag/pilgrimage/tourist item.

Until I can determine if the face can be non-destructively cleaned, the back would get shellac to preserve the writing. If so, I would low heat press cracked areas on the front, then shellac it, then apply linseed oil to the entire front.

As the icon is in very fragile condition and isn't "high value," I plan to use natural shellac and refined linseed oil to conserve it--barring revelations in this thread that would suggest otherwise.

Thank you, Arachne, LBK, Liza. This "Peter the Great" bit only adds more to the mystery. I looked up anniversary events associated with Peter the Great: 1907 was the 200th anniversary of Peter the Great's navy; 1903 was the 200th anniversary of the founding of St Petersburg by Peter the Great...

How's this: