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  1. Serge

    I'm becoming a regular at this service.

    I'm becoming a regular at this service.
  2. Serge

    Thanks but I'd rather not sing.

    Thanks but I'd rather not sing.
  3. Serge

    Went to the local Antiochians for Saturday Vespers. Nice! I don't know the music but that's...

    Went to the local Antiochians for Saturday Vespers. Nice! I don't know the music but that's okay; I'm not trying to sing.
  4. Serge

    Introduction thread for new and old members

    Welcome. What did you convert from?
  5. Serge

    Sure enough. Thank you.

    Sure enough. Thank you.
  6. Serge

    Best Seminary for WRO?

    Please do!
  7. Serge

    By the way, a Greek-American, Nia Vardalos, wrote My Big Fat Greek Wedding; it's...

    By the way, a Greek-American, Nia Vardalos, wrote My Big Fat Greek Wedding; it's semi-autobiographical. Like how an Italian-American, Mario Puzo, wrote The Godfather, and a believing Catholic, William Peter Blatty, wrote The Exorcist, based on a true story. Stereotypes but none ill-informed.
  8. Serge

    Best Seminary for WRO?

    Good question. Looking forward to the answer. If one isn't a former Episcopal priest or former Lutheran pastor - "here is our missal; make these changes, such as no filioque, and you're good to go," how is one trained in one or more of the WRO options in Antioch or ROCOR?
  9. Serge

    Sad but true. The wide highway to hell.

    Sad but true. The wide highway to hell.
  10. Serge

    Theological hot takes that can get you in trouble with your fellow brethren

    Never - I should - but I've met a lot of people from there. Alpo2, you're in Finland, right? Minority Orthodoxy in a Western country; Westernized customs like many Orthodox in North America. Anyway, the point is it would be easier to have frequent Communion if the Liturgy starts early; with a...
  11. Serge

    I know. Universal: many healthy societies, not just Christian - traditional Christian, Catholic...

    I know. Universal: many healthy societies, not just Christian - traditional Christian, Catholic or Orthodox - ones. And it's almost gone. Everything in our wicked modern society is working against it. Deliberately breaking up families and communities. I don't have the answer to bring it all...
  12. Serge

    Stereotypes aren't per se bad. They exist because they're generally true. Short, pithy - they...

    Stereotypes aren't per se bad. They exist because they're generally true. Short, pithy - they give you the broad outlines but don't capture every nuance of everybody's experience. I want more and stronger villages and extended families, so more Greek etc. weddings, when you're young, even late...
  13. Serge

    "Is this a Latinist breakdown?" Please explain. Do you mean a Latin trying to fit Orthodoxy into...

    "Is this a Latinist breakdown?" Please explain. Do you mean a Latin trying to fit Orthodoxy into a category that doesn't fit it? Not my intent.
  14. Serge

    "What are you even talking about?" It came from a conversation elsewhere - typical Orthodox life...

    "What are you even talking about?" It came from a conversation elsewhere - typical Orthodox life and quintessentially Latin and modern things such as the Jesuits and Opus Dei are culturally very different!
  15. Serge

    "You know, Orthodoxy exists outside of Greco-Slavic stereotypes, right?" Sure but not without...

    "You know, Orthodoxy exists outside of Greco-Slavic stereotypes, right?" Sure but not without controversy in America, for example - fights over language and the calendar, and Greeks and East Slavs ARE totally culturally Orthodox so this might not be wrong, just brief and general.
  16. Serge

    "Sounds like a very cartoonish version." It's short; pithy. What needs correcting/fleshing out...

    "Sounds like a very cartoonish version." It's short; pithy. What needs correcting/fleshing out without getting too long/wordy?
  17. Serge

    Theological hot takes that can get you in trouble with your fellow brethren

    I hear you, brother. Or go old-school, old-country: a string of services starting at 8 or 9am Sundays and lasting several hours, but the people don't starve themselves every Sunday morning, nor stay for all the services. Mill in and out of church at will, staying for about 30 minutes, maybe...
  18. Serge

    Orthodoxy is a different ethos - extended family with yiayias/babas, and village life - from...

    Orthodoxy is a different ethos - extended family with yiayias/babas, and village life - from Jesuitical and Opus Dei-like semi-secret societies in the secular world.
  19. Serge

    Theological hot takes that can get you in trouble with your fellow brethren

    Ware writes that before the Russian Revolution, the church there talked about translating the services into Russian. They say no now but it's possible, though unlikely. Probably the same for medieval vs. modern Greek. I like liturgical languages, especially if they're at least related to modern...
  20. Serge

    Theological hot takes that can get you in trouble with your fellow brethren

    Reducing the parish to an ethnic club will drive it into the grave. You can argue that the assimilation in Western countries that's killing Eastern parishes is a reaction to that club mentality. But, for example, the Metropolia/OCA made everybody use English starting in the '70s. Did it turn...
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