- Mar 28, 2010
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- Eastern Orthodox
The Church reserves the right to make the call between true heretics and material schismatics...I trust they can tell the difference. I don't think you can...actually...and I say that without intending to be mean. I think you have a bone to pick and so you will, as most find that they must, go to any extreme necessary and define terms as you see them.choy said:I haven't seen any limit to that. Ordinations, for one thing, it seems any rogue bishop can ordain anyone they want. The only true limit of such ordination is if the rogue bishop ordains a woman, then of course that cannot be.elijahmaria said:There are limits to that...At some point a heretic is removed from the Church and no longer is able to do as the Church intends because the Church recognizes that they cannot. The same would apply to one who intends something demonic in what they do...however much the form is intact.
There is never a one-size-fits-all in Church law...It is always open first and foremost to the actions of the Holy Spirit, and then to those who teach and impose the laws of the Church.
This is why we have the infamous "Dutch Touch", when some Old Catholic bishop ordained Anglican bishops so that they can regain their validy. This is how the SSPX keeps ordaining priests despite the fact that the Vatican herself told them not to. Lefebvre shoudn't even have been able to validly ordain because Canon Law explicitly states that what he did is not the intent of the Church (you cannot ordain bishops without the permission of the Pope), yet the validity of his ordinations were never questioned to this day and the bishops are recognized as bishops.