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Archbishop Tikhon elected Metropolitan of All American and Canada

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Archbishop Tikhon, Archbishop of Philadelphia and Eastern Pennsylvania, was elected Primate of the Orthodox Church in America during the 17th All-American Council of the Orthodox Church in America at Holy Trinity Church here Tuesday, November 13, 2012.
 

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Axios! I understand the top two vote getters were Archbishop Tikhon and Bishop Michael. Devin commented on the other thread that the Archbishop is only 46. If he is blessed with good health and better luck - he could be Metropolitan for four decades or more. Perhaps the fact that Bishop Michael is 63 had some bearing on the outcome as the Synod may have felt that a likely lengthy period of tenure would be in the OCA's best interests. I have heard good things about the new Metropolitan and we all should wish him well and pray for a peaceful reign. Again, AXIOS!
 

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His biography is available here:

Archbishop of Washington, Metropolitan of All American and Canada
http://oca.org/holy-synod/bishops/the-most-blessed-tikhon
 

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celticfan1888 said:
His biography is available here:

Archbishop of Washington, Metropolitan of All American and Canada
http://oca.org/holy-synod/bishops/the-most-blessed-tikhon
I wonder where he lived in Missouri.
 

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Iconodule said:
brittrossiter said:
Archbishop Tikhon, Archbishop of Philadelphia and Eastern Pennsylvania, was elected Primate of the Orthodox Church in America during the 17th All-American Council of the Orthodox Church in America at Holy Trinity Church here Tuesday, November 13, 2012.
http://oca.org/news/headline-news/archbishop-tikhon-elected-metropolitan-of-all-american-and-canada
Woah, that's my bishop!

Axios!
thoughts on the pic? 
 

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I'm really not qualified to assess who is best for the job, but from what I've seen of him, Archbishop Tikhon strikes me as a kind and unassuming monk and he's been a good pastor for Eastern PA. I think he will do well.
 

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Axios! Axios! Axios!

I clearly remembered his Beatitude, but was pleasantly surprised that he remembered me, picking me out of the crowd at the consecration of +Bishop Melchisedek to talk and catch up.
 

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I have had the pleasure of meeting and speaking with +Tikhon on multiple occasions. He is a very humble, thoughtful person, and I am very impressed with him.

Axios!
 

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Axios! Habemus Metropolitanum! What a joy for our Church to once again have a Primate as we enter Advent!
 

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For anyone interested, there were interviews done at the last Assembly of Canonical Orthodox Bishops of North and Central America of a few of the hierarchs present, and His Eminence Metropolitan (then Archbishop) Tikhon was one of them.

Might give a little insight into the new Metropolitan for those that know little about him.  :)

http://www.assemblyofbishops.org/multimedia/conversations
 

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Thanks for the additional info^ ;)

I only know of him what my good friend told me of his experiences as he followed +TIKHON around to different parishes, assisting as deacon to His Beatitude's dioceses charitable affairs and associations with STOTS. It was my understanding that he loves social ministries.

I believe he will be the much needed medicine for our jurisdiction. Humble. Loves God. A careful administrator. Charitable.

Many years! Axios!

On a side note, I noticed how awfully quiet the Runamuckos bunch are. I guess they'll just wait til the next time they can jump in to the rumor mill. Anyone know if the guy who runs it is even in the OCA?
 

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Hope that he will be able to restore the OCA to what it was before the war on Metropolitan Jonah.
Preserve O God, the Orthodox faith of Orthodox Christians, unto ages of ages.
 

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ilyazhito said:
Hope that he will be able to restore the OCA to what it was before the war on Metropolitan Jonah.
'Cause that was such a Golden Age.
 

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Yeah, and hopefully to before the financila scandal as well, because that definitely threatened to destroy the OCA.
 

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Interestingly, the OCA elected a second Anglican in row for the metropolitan see. Not, that's not bad, just interesting.

Worthy!
 

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On a side note, I noticed how awfully quiet the Runamuckos bunch are. I guess they'll just wait til the next time they can jump in to the rumor mill. Anyone know if the guy who runs it is even in the OCA?
George is a member of the OCA I believe. The Monomackos bunch are relatively silent because there is nothing more to say at this juncture. The ongoing mistreatment of Metropolitan Jonah was not mentioned and certainly not dealt with as of yet. Well, the day before they did say a deal was in the works and both sides aren't talking about it, even though those still close to Met. Jonah deny this is true. Same old same old. A new non controversial metropolitan was elected, a man who seems to be of good repute by most of those who know him…including priests I know and trust who think well of him. How his reign turns out time will tell. May God grant him wisdom and strength.

For many of us, trust in the Holy Synod as presently composed is gone and it will not be easily won back.  So, we're quiet, and likely to grow quieter. We wait to see what more will be done for or to His Beatitude, Metropolitan Jonah. We hope they will do right, but we're not holding our breath.
 

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Seraphim98 said:
On a side note, I noticed how awfully quiet the Runamuckos bunch are. I guess they'll just wait til the next time they can jump in to the rumor mill. Anyone know if the guy who runs it is even in the OCA?
George is a member of the OCA I believe. The Monomackos bunch are relatively silent because there is nothing more to say at this juncture. The ongoing mistreatment of Metropolitan Jonah was not mentioned and certainly not dealt with as of yet. Well, the day before they did say a deal was in the works and both sides aren't talking about it, even though those still close to Met. Jonah deny this is true. Same old same old. A new non controversial metropolitan was elected, a man who seems to be of good repute by most of those who know him…including priests I know and trust who think well of him. How his reign turns out time will tell. May God grant him wisdom and strength.

For many of us, trust in the Holy Synod as presently composed is gone and it will not be easily won back.  So, we're quiet, and likely to grow quieter. We wait to see what more will be done for or to His Beatitude, Metropolitan Jonah. We hope they will do right, but we're not holding our breath.
I say thanks be to God the Monomakhos crowd has shut up. I'll quote good old Obi-Wan...
"Monomakhos, you'll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy, we must be cautious."

Axios to his eminence Metropolitan Tikhon!

And many years to his grace former Metropolitan Jonah. I hope the rest of his life is spent in peace and in a place and position that he desires.
 

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88Devin12 said:
Seraphim98 said:
On a side note, I noticed how awfully quiet the Runamuckos bunch are. I guess they'll just wait til the next time they can jump in to the rumor mill. Anyone know if the guy who runs it is even in the OCA?
George is a member of the OCA I believe. The Monomackos bunch are relatively silent because there is nothing more to say at this juncture. The ongoing mistreatment of Metropolitan Jonah was not mentioned and certainly not dealt with as of yet. Well, the day before they did say a deal was in the works and both sides aren't talking about it, even though those still close to Met. Jonah deny this is true. Same old same old. A new non controversial metropolitan was elected, a man who seems to be of good repute by most of those who know him…including priests I know and trust who think well of him. How his reign turns out time will tell. May God grant him wisdom and strength.

For many of us, trust in the Holy Synod as presently composed is gone and it will not be easily won back.  So, we're quiet, and likely to grow quieter. We wait to see what more will be done for or to His Beatitude, Metropolitan Jonah. We hope they will do right, but we're not holding our breath.
Devin, after writing this ^ & this... "
If the Synod takes issue with his words about stepping down and abandoning autocephaly for jurisdictional unity then they can simply shut up and shove it.

The respect I have for the EP also doesn't mean I'm not happy when a canonical bishop openly calls him out on matters where he should be. If the Synod didn't like that they can also shut up and shove it.

If they didn't like the fact that he openly confronted and opposed immorality in our society like abortion and gay marriage then our bishops can shove it.

If they didn't like how he was speaking with conservative Anglicans with the hope of leading them to the churh then the synod can shove it...

Bishop Jonah was under a lot of stress and I will be willing to say that a lot of that is the fault of the Synod.

If any bishop in the synod took issue with his beatitude for any of the above, then that/those bishop(s) can simply take their staffs and shove them far up where the sun don't shine.
I say thanks be to God the Monomakhos crowd has shut up. I'll quote good old Obi-Wan...
"Monomakhos, you'll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy, we must be cautious."

Axios to his eminence Metropolitan Tikhon!

And many years to his grace former Metropolitan Jonah. I hope the rest of his life is spent in peace and in a place and position that he desires."
do you just hate the synod as much as those who are on the site? I'm confused.
 

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ilyazhito said:
Hope that he will be able to restore the OCA to what it was before the war on Metropolitan Jonah.
I don't know that there's any standard to which anyone should wish to restore the OCA. I think our best course of action is to learn from the failures of our past and strive to move forward in a spirit of repentance.

I also think you slander the Synod by claiming that they waged some kind of war against Metropolitan Jonah.
 

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simplygermain said:
88Devin12 said:
Seraphim98 said:
On a side note, I noticed how awfully quiet the Runamuckos bunch are. I guess they'll just wait til the next time they can jump in to the rumor mill. Anyone know if the guy who runs it is even in the OCA?
George is a member of the OCA I believe. The Monomackos bunch are relatively silent because there is nothing more to say at this juncture. The ongoing mistreatment of Metropolitan Jonah was not mentioned and certainly not dealt with as of yet. Well, the day before they did say a deal was in the works and both sides aren't talking about it, even though those still close to Met. Jonah deny this is true. Same old same old. A new non controversial metropolitan was elected, a man who seems to be of good repute by most of those who know him…including priests I know and trust who think well of him. How his reign turns out time will tell. May God grant him wisdom and strength.

For many of us, trust in the Holy Synod as presently composed is gone and it will not be easily won back.  So, we're quiet, and likely to grow quieter. We wait to see what more will be done for or to His Beatitude, Metropolitan Jonah. We hope they will do right, but we're not holding our breath.
Devin, after writing this ^ & this... "
If the Synod takes issue with his words about stepping down and abandoning autocephaly for jurisdictional unity then they can simply shut up and shove it.

The respect I have for the EP also doesn't mean I'm not happy when a canonical bishop openly calls him out on matters where he should be. If the Synod didn't like that they can also shut up and shove it.

If they didn't like the fact that he openly confronted and opposed immorality in our society like abortion and gay marriage then our bishops can shove it.

If they didn't like how he was speaking with conservative Anglicans with the hope of leading them to the churh then the synod can shove it...

Bishop Jonah was under a lot of stress and I will be willing to say that a lot of that is the fault of the Synod.

If any bishop in the synod took issue with his beatitude for any of the above, then that/those bishop(s) can simply take their staffs and shove them far up where the sun don't shine.
I say thanks be to God the Monomakhos crowd has shut up. I'll quote good old Obi-Wan...
"Monomakhos, you'll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy, we must be cautious."

Axios to his eminence Metropolitan Tikhon!

And many years to his grace former Metropolitan Jonah. I hope the rest of his life is spent in peace and in a place and position that he desires."
do you just hate the synod as much as those who are on the site? I'm confused.
The quote from Star Wars refers to the Monomakhos folks - not the Synod. If you've followed Devin's posts over the past months, that seems clear to me.
 

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podkarpatska said:
simplygermain said:
88Devin12 said:
Seraphim98 said:
On a side note, I noticed how awfully quiet the Runamuckos bunch are. I guess they'll just wait til the next time they can jump in to the rumor mill. Anyone know if the guy who runs it is even in the OCA?
George is a member of the OCA I believe. The Monomackos bunch are relatively silent because there is nothing more to say at this juncture. The ongoing mistreatment of Metropolitan Jonah was not mentioned and certainly not dealt with as of yet. Well, the day w they did say a deal was in the works and both sides aren't talking about it, even though those still close to Met. Jonah deny this is true. Same old same old. A new non controversial metropolitan was elected, a man who seems to be of good repute by most of those who know him…including priests I know and trust who think well of him. How his reign turns out time will tell. May God grant him wisdom and strength.

For many of us, trust in the Holy Synod as presently composed is gone and it will not be easily won back.  So, we're quiet, and likely to grow quieter. We wait to see what more will be done for or to His Beatitude, Metropolitan Jonah. We hope they will do right, but we're not holding our breath.
Devin, after writing this ^ & this... "
If the Synod takes issue with his words about stepping down and abandoning autocephaly for jurisdictional unity then they can simply shut up and shove it.

The respect I have for the EP also doesn't mean I'm not happy when a canonical bishop openly calls him out on matters where he should be. If the Synod didn't like that they can also shut up and shove it.

If they didn't like the fact that he openly confronted and opposed immorality in our society like abortion and gay marriage then our bishops can shove it.

If they didn't like how he was speaking with conservative Anglicans with the hope of leading them to the churh then the synod can shove it...

Bishop Jonah was under a lot of stress and I will be willing to say that a lot of that is the fault of the Synod.


If any bishop in the synod took issue with his beatitude for any of the above, then that/those bishop(s) can simply take their staffs and shove them far up where the sun don't shine.
I say thanks be to God the Monomakhos crowd has shut up. I'll quote good old Obi-Wan...
"Monomakhos, you'll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy, we must be cautious."

Axios to his eminence Metropolitan Tikhon!

And many years to his grace former Metropolitan Jonah. I hope the rest of his life is spent in peace and in a place and position that he desires."
do you just hate the synod as much as those who are on the site? I'm confused.
The quote from Star Wars refers to the Monomakhos folks - not the Synod. If you've followed Devin's posts over the past months, that seems clear to me.
I quoted Devine comments from an earlier post in July on another thread. It's as if he switched opinions somewhere along the way. Went from telling us the bishops could "shove it" and other things, to saying the quote from Star Wars about those who post on Monomakhos. This is what I was pointing out.
 

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simplygermain said:
podkarpatska said:
simplygermain said:
88Devin12 said:
Seraphim98 said:
On a side note, I noticed how awfully quiet the Runamuckos bunch are. I guess they'll just wait til the next time they can jump in to the rumor mill. Anyone know if the guy who runs it is even in the OCA?
George is a member of the OCA I believe. The Monomackos bunch are relatively silent because there is nothing more to say at this juncture. The ongoing mistreatment of Metropolitan Jonah was not mentioned and certainly not dealt with as of yet. Well, the day w they did say a deal was in the works and both sides aren't talking about it, even though those still close to Met. Jonah deny this is true. Same old same old. A new non controversial metropolitan was elected, a man who seems to be of good repute by most of those who know him…including priests I know and trust who think well of him. How his reign turns out time will tell. May God grant him wisdom and strength.

For many of us, trust in the Holy Synod as presently composed is gone and it will not be easily won back.  So, we're quiet, and likely to grow quieter. We wait to see what more will be done for or to His Beatitude, Metropolitan Jonah. We hope they will do right, but we're not holding our breath.
Devin, after writing this ^ & this... "
If the Synod takes issue with his words about stepping down and abandoning autocephaly for jurisdictional unity then they can simply shut up and shove it.

The respect I have for the EP also doesn't mean I'm not happy when a canonical bishop openly calls him out on matters where he should be. If the Synod didn't like that they can also shut up and shove it.

If they didn't like the fact that he openly confronted and opposed immorality in our society like abortion and gay marriage then our bishops can shove it.

If they didn't like how he was speaking with conservative Anglicans with the hope of leading them to the churh then the synod can shove it...

Bishop Jonah was under a lot of stress and I will be willing to say that a lot of that is the fault of the Synod.


If any bishop in the synod took issue with his beatitude for any of the above, then that/those bishop(s) can simply take their staffs and shove them far up where the sun don't shine.
I say thanks be to God the Monomakhos crowd has shut up. I'll quote good old Obi-Wan...
"Monomakhos, you'll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy, we must be cautious."

Axios to his eminence Metropolitan Tikhon!

And many years to his grace former Metropolitan Jonah. I hope the rest of his life is spent in peace and in a place and position that he desires."
do you just hate the synod as much as those who are on the site? I'm confused.
The quote from Star Wars refers to the Monomakhos folks - not the Synod. If you've followed Devin's posts over the past months, that seems clear to me.
I quoted Devine comments from an earlier post in July on another thread. It's as if he switched opinions somewhere along the way. Went from telling us the bishops could "shove it" and other things, to saying the quote from Star Wars about those who post on Monomakhos. This is what I was pointing out.
I'm not allowed to realize I was wrong and change my mind? That was almost 5 months ago. On the Internet, even 1 or 2 months is a "long time".
 

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88Devin12 said:
simplygermain said:
podkarpatska said:
simplygermain said:
88Devin12 said:
Seraphim98 said:
On a side note, I noticed how awfully quiet the Runamuckos bunch are. I guess they'll just wait til the next time they can jump in to the rumor mill. Anyone know if the guy who runs it is even in the OCA?
George is a member of the OCA I believe. The Monomackos bunch are relatively silent because there is nothing more to say at this juncture. The ongoing mistreatment of Metropolitan Jonah was not mentioned and certainly not dealt with as of yet. Well, the day w they did say a deal was in the works and both sides aren't talking about it, even though those still close to Met. Jonah deny this is true. Same old same old. A new non controversial metropolitan was elected, a man who seems to be of good repute by most of those who know him…including priests I know and trust who think well of him. How his reign turns out time will tell. May God grant him wisdom and strength.

For many of us, trust in the Holy Synod as presently composed is gone and it will not be easily won back.  So, we're quiet, and likely to grow quieter. We wait to see what more will be done for or to His Beatitude, Metropolitan Jonah. We hope they will do right, but we're not holding our breath.
Devin, after writing this ^ & this... "
If the Synod takes issue with his words about stepping down and abandoning autocephaly for jurisdictional unity then they can simply shut up and shove it.

The respect I have for the EP also doesn't mean I'm not happy when a canonical bishop openly calls him out on matters where he should be. If the Synod didn't like that they can also shut up and shove it.

If they didn't like the fact that he openly confronted and opposed immorality in our society like abortion and gay marriage then our bishops can shove it.

they didn't like how he was speaking with conservative Anglicans with the hope of leading them to the churh then the synod can shove it...

Bishop Jonah was under a lot of stress and I will be willing to say that a lot of that is the fault of the Synod.


If any bishop in the synod took issue with his beatitude for any of the above, then that/those bishop(s) can simply take their staffs and shove them far up where the sun don't shine.
I say thanks be to God the Monomakhos crowd has shut up. I'll quote good old Obi-Wan...
"Monomakhos, you'll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy, we must be cautious."

Axios to his eminence Metropolitan Tikhon!

And many years to his grace former Metropolitan Jonah. I hope the rest of his life is spent in peace and in a place and position that he desires."
do you just hate the synod as much as those who are on the site? I'm confused.
The quote from Star Wars refers to the Monomakhos folks - not the Synod. If you've followed Devin's posts over the past months, that seems clear to me.
I quoted Devine comments from an earlier post in July on another thread. It's as if he switched opinions somewhere along the way. Went from telling us the bishops could "shove it" and other things, to saying the quote from Star Wars about those who post on Monomakhos. This is what I was pointing out.
I'm not allowed to realize I was wrong and change my mind? That was almost 5 months ago. On the Internet, even 1 or 2 months is a "long time".
Of course you can change your mind! In fact I'm glad you did. I was confused because you seemed so passionate about slandering the Synod.

Regardless, I hope you learn a lesson, to wait and watch as things transpire before being so reactionary. May God watch over us both as I have also been guilty of jumping the gun before!
 

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He is worthy! Axios!

On the second round Bishop Michael got 355 votes to Archbishop Tikhon's 317 and Bishop Melchisedek's 161 (not that the second runner up factors into things). Any of the top three would have been worthy - we're blessed :).

podkarpatska said:
Axios! I understand the top two vote getters were Archbishop Tikhon and Bishop Michael. Devin commented on the other thread that the Archbishop is only 46. If he is blessed with good health and better luck - he could be Metropolitan for four decades or more. Perhaps the fact that Bishop Michael is 63 had some bearing on the outcome as the Synod may have felt that a likely lengthy period of tenure would be in the OCA's best interests. I have heard good things about the new Metropolitan and we all should wish him well and pray for a peaceful reign. Again, AXIOS!
 

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anyone know if he is most of a liberal or a traditionalist? ;P
 

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Gunnarr said:
anyone know if he is most of a liberal or a traditionalist? ;P
Why do those labels matter? The question we should be asking is this: Is His Beatitude orthodox?
 

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PeterTheAleut said:
Gunnarr said:
anyone know if he is most of a liberal or a traditionalist? ;P
Why do those labels matter? The question we should be asking is this: Is His Beatitude orthodox?
Unless he has changed, he is.
 

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PeterTheAleut said:
Gunnarr said:
anyone know if he is most of a liberal or a traditionalist? ;P
Why do those labels matter? The question we should be asking is this: Is His Beatitude orthodox?
Yes, he is
 

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Father H said:
PeterTheAleut said:
Gunnarr said:
anyone know if he is most of a liberal or a traditionalist? ;P
Why do those labels matter? The question we should be asking is this: Is His Beatitude orthodox?
Yes, he is
He is also well received by both Serbian and Russian bishops AFAIK.
 

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PeterTheAleut said:
Gunnarr said:
anyone know if he is most of a liberal or a traditionalist? ;P
Why do those labels matter? The question we should be asking is this: Is His Beatitude orthodox?
Okay then... I will ask it another way

What is his position on ecumenism?

What is his position on the Word Council of churches?

What is his position on baptism?

 

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Gunnarr said:
PeterTheAleut said:
Gunnarr said:
anyone know if he is most of a liberal or a traditionalist? ;P
Why do those labels matter? The question we should be asking is this: Is His Beatitude orthodox?
Okay then... I will ask it another way

What is his position on ecumenism?

What is his position on the Word Council of churches?

What is his position on baptism?
I expect his position on anything is the traditional OCA position. In other words, traditional Orthodox position.
 

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ISTM that the terms "liberal" and "traditional" are so poorly defined and understood as to be virtually useless for the purposes of discussion. Especially with regards to Orthodoxy.
 

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katherineofdixie said:
ISTM that the terms "liberal" and "traditional" are so poorly defined and understood as to be virtually useless for the purposes of discussion. Especially with regards to Orthodoxy.
Amen. Thankfully, that is true in Orthodoxy, unlike in Anglicanism and Roman Catholicism.

Cradle Orthodox, you can't imagine the battles you have missed.
 

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Gunnarr said:
PeterTheAleut said:
Gunnarr said:
anyone know if he is most of a liberal or a traditionalist? ;P
Why do those labels matter? The question we should be asking is this: Is His Beatitude orthodox?
Okay then... I will ask it another way

What is his position on ecumenism?
He left the Episcopalians.

Gunnarr said:
What is his position on the Word Council of churches?
He didn't care for the craziness IIRC.
Gunnarr said:
What is his position on baptism?
He's all for it.
 

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ialmisry said:
Gunnarr said:
PeterTheAleut said:
Gunnarr said:
anyone know if he is most of a liberal or a traditionalist? ;P
Why do those labels matter? The question we should be asking is this: Is His Beatitude orthodox?
Okay then... I will ask it another way

What is his position on ecumenism?
He left the Episcopalians.

Gunnarr said:
What is his position on the Word Council of churches?
He didn't care for the craziness IIRC.
Gunnarr said:
What is his position on baptism?
He's all for it.
Perhaps the best response ever! lol
 
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