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Article CDF reaches negative judgment on Medjugorje, Italian journalists reports

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CDF reaches negative judgment on Medjugorje, Italian journalists reports

-Catholic World News

"The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF) has reached a negative conclusion regarding the authenticity of the reported Marian apparitions at Medjugorje, according to Italian media reports.

The CDF reportedly held a feria quarta meeting on June 24, at which the prelates discussed the findings of a special papal commission that had investigated the Medjugorje phenomenon. According to several Italian journalists—notably Vatican-watcher Gianluca Barile—the CDF agreed with that commission’s finding that there is no evidence of supernatural activity at Medjugorje..."

Full Article: https://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=25356
 

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Cyrillic said:
Why exactly does the Vatican feel that it must judge either way?
Presumably because they care about their flock, and don't want the faithful to be led astray by something that is false.

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I'm very glad to hear this.
Me too.
 

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eddybear said:
Cyrillic said:
Why exactly does the Vatican feel that it must judge either way?
Presumably because they care about their flock, and don't want the faithful to be led astray by something that is false.
Wouldn't "don't pay attention to private revelations" suffice? Why investigate them?
 

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Cyrillic said:
eddybear said:
Cyrillic said:
Why exactly does the Vatican feel that it must judge either way?
Presumably because they care about their flock, and don't want the faithful to be led astray by something that is false.
Wouldn't "don't pay attention to private revelations" suffice? Why investigate them?
If it turned out to be true, they would have the appearance of a saint on their hands.

I guess they have to check and see if it's true.
 

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This is going to piss off a lot of people.  Not saying its wrong but there are some people out there who are not going to take this well.
 

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homedad76 said:
This is going to piss off a lot of people.  Not saying its wrong but there are some people out there who are not going to take this well.
More likely it will provoke the usual Catholic response - profession of loyalty to the Holy Father while ignoring his ruling. It's a time-honored practice of Catholics of all stripes!
 

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MalpanaGiwargis said:
homedad76 said:
This is going to piss off a lot of people.  Not saying its wrong but there are some people out there who are not going to take this well.
More likely it will provoke the usual Catholic response - profession of loyalty to the Holy Father while ignoring his ruling. It's a time-honored practice of Catholics of all stripes!
Maybe.
But as an Orthodox person I have to admit to that I appreciate and respect the fact that the Vatican took this step against evil, even though much money and pressure would say to do otherwise.
 
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Papist said:
I'm very glad to hear this.
Reports of a negative decision appear to be very premature: http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/the-vatican/detail/articolo/medjugorje-41993/
 

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Pope Francis on Medjugorje apparitions

Asked by journalists about the alleged appearance of the Virgin Mary at Medjugorje, Pope Francis said the original apparitions more than three decades ago deserve further study, but voiced doubt in the supposed ongoing visions...

While the Fatima apparitions have long been approved by the Vatican and local bishops, debate continues to cloud discussion over the authenticity of the alleged appearances in Medjugorje. In April 1991, the bishops of the former Yugoslavia determined that “on the basis of the research that has been done, it is not possible to state that there were apparitions or supernatural revelations.”

On the basis of those findings, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith directed in October 2013 that clerics and the faithful “are not permitted to participate in meetings, conferences or public celebrations during which the credibility of such 'apparitions' would be taken for granted.” However, Benedict XVI established a commission, headed by Cardinal Camillo Ruini, to study the topic in further detail.

In January 2014, the commission completed their study on supposed apparitions' doctrinal and disciplinary aspects, and was to have submitted its findings to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. The congregation has yet to submit its final document to the Pope for a final decision...

Third, [Pope Francis] emphasized the need to also look at the pastoral and spiritual dimensions of Medjugorje, because “people go there and convert. People encounter God, change their lives.” This isn’t a result of “magic,” he said, but is a valid spiritual and pastoral fact that “can’t be ignored.”...
 

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Cyrillic said:
Why exactly does the Vatican feel that it must judge either way?
It's what they do. Everything must be judged, dogmatized, and divided. And, in the past, then the deaths must be handed out. This was the germ of Modernism.
 
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