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But is he Orthodox, Joe? (We know His father is heading in our direction!) :) BTW Joe, I'm a monarchist too! I actively support the return of the Ethiopian and Russian Emperors. You also said:

"I am all for militia forces and have volunteered to serve in the Arkansas Liberation Organization when the time is ripe..."

Are you sure the government isn't watching you? Now I'm sorry I clicked on the link to your website! :-

Your Highness, I'm not sure if you would accept my membership. I am Oriental Orthodox (Coptic).
 
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Who says we are going to conquer anyone? We are simply going to defend ourselves and ifwe are aroused we will ride out and fight them back. Prince Henry is not related to the Byzantine dynasty, there was a change in a position of the dynasties within England. Well my friend Antonious I would accept you into my party/organization. I do not care what form of Christianity you are, preferablly Orthodox which you are. So I am now asking you to join my party. Send me your email so we may continue our discussion. Please respond
 

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For those of you who are claiming to support a monarchy returning to places like Ethiopia, Moscow, and Constantinople, may I ask why you would prefer monarchy to democracy?
 

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"Byzantine Prince",

I must be honest, I am very concerned about what you are doing. You are only 16 years old and you are leading young men, still teenagers, in some crazy crusade.

I spoke to one of your followers on AIM last night. He is only 14 and willing to die for your cause. And I am sure he isn't the only one.

From my understanding your plan is to head to Serbia in 2008 with your crew, build churches, and if nessecary kill those who get in the way. You want to set up some neo-nazi facist government that will root out Islam in anyway possible.

And all of this without the blessing of the Orthodox Church, not even one Orthodox priest!

Please....STOP!
 

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Amen to that Ben.

Oh please. If the government doesn't have anything better to do..... Actually it was just a joke. there is no ALO as of yet, but if things get worse.......

Actually, yes Prince Henry Mountbatton is indeed related to the last Byzantine Dynasty. He is also a descendent of the Grand Prince Vulodymyr through HRM Elizabeth adn HRH Philip. It is through HRH Philip htat he is related to the last Byzantine Dynasty.

Now the Prince Henry's Orthodoxy or rather lack thereof is a concern. However Apostates have sat on the thrown in Constantinople before. And who says he will not convert?

Royal Geneology is a hobby of mine.

Konstantinos, from appearances you are a decieved young man out for your greater glory. Even if you were descended from the last Byzantine Dynasty as you claim, you would not be the rightful heir. In addition to this, you are acting without the blessing of the Church and you are acting in direct contradiction to the teachings of Christ. Christ said "he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword." If you are concerned about the state of Orthodoxy, and you should be, send money to the OCMC instead.

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I would support a Monarchy with all three, preferablly a Constitutional monarchy. I have also written most of a code, entitled the Byzantium Code. If any of you are interested in reading it, please ask and I will send it to you. I know I have many young supporters who are willing to die for me, but we need that in order for my plan to succeed. I myself am willing to die also. I do not believe in a Nazi/fascist government or the killing of innocent people. That is not what I believe. I believe we should defend and stide out if we are assaulted. I have already spoken with my holy Father and has said he will bless it before I leave for the Balkans. So maybe some mis-communication. Please respond.
 

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Willing to die for you?! for you?! for you?! I am flabergasted. The only thing we need people "who are willing to die" is if they are willing to die for Christ's Sake and the spreading of hte Holy Faith, not the spreading of the grandios dreams of someone who still needs to get out into the real world. I love America, but I would not say "i am willing to go out and die for America." I am willing to die for Christ, but not for some earthly cause.

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Well in essence we will all be dieing for Orthodoxy and Christ. But when I say willing to die for me, arent the soldiers in Iraq willing to die for Bush? The Prussians for Frederick the Great? The Macedonians for Alexander the Great? I plan on restoring the monarchy with myself at the helm since I am royalty. We are all in the same boat together remember.
 

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JoeZollars said:
I love America, but I would not say "i am willing to go out and die for America."
I was, have been and am still willing to die for my country if it is necessary and asked of me...However the idea of dying for one's country or (God Forbid) a monarch is all BS. When it comes right down to it, in combat the only thing men are willing to die for is each other.

So what is the name and parish of this "holy Father" who is willing to bless this armed struggle?
 

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romanbyzantium said:
betraying america... are we.
What, betraying the All Holy and Everlasting American Empire? Nah.

I just prefer an ancient Orthodox (or, in few occasions, Catholic-Ireland ;D) nation.
 

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ByzntinePrince said:
Well in essence we will all be dieing for Orthodoxy and Christ. But when I say willing to die for me, arent the soldiers in Iraq willing to die for Bush? The Prussians for Frederick the Great? The Macedonians for Alexander the Great? I plan on restoring the monarchy with myself at the helm since I am royalty. We are all in the same boat together remember.
Shall we count those examples of heathans and heretics? Since when does the Orthodox Church raise armies and other such things. NO! Dying for you is not the same thing as dying for Christ.

If you intend to restore the Monarchy through such violent and frankly un-Orthodox means, and to "restore" yourself as emperor in complete contradiction to all rules of Monarchial governance, than I must declare that I can have nothing to do with you or your "cause." And I doupt you will find very many if any American Monarchists willing to support your campaign.

You remind me a bit of myself a few years back. I even talked of raising an army to rid Europe of hte Mohamadean scourge. But then I got a job, got out in the real world--and grew up a bit.

Joe Zollars
 

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I have just had an extensive private Instant Message conversation with ByzantinePrince and feel that I must warn people that this man is a pathological liar. He gave me three different names of the "Greek Orthodox Church" he attends--none of which are in the GOA or in the GOC for that matter. He also claimed that his Bishop is Kallistos Ware. I feel I must warn people that this man may possibly be dangerous and/or a cult leader givin his willinglness to have people die for him.

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This is the name and address of the Church he claims to attend:

St. Andrews Greek Orthodox church
414 W SOUTH ST
KALAMAZOO, MI 49007
Phone:343-7833

Makes me wonder if this is indeed a FOCoMB (First Orthodox Church of My Basement).

Joe Zollars
 

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It was interesting, but I kept waiting for Allen Funt to appear as a pop-up add and tell us we were on candid internet camera. ;D Interesting concept though!
 
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These are nothing but lies from Mr.Zollars, as a matter of fact in our conversation he claimed to be related to the last German Dynasty! I am not lying about the church I attend, it is new. As for the Bishop I never said that and I deny his lies. Please dismiss him.
 

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LOLOLOLOL....


Please forgive me...I am getting such a kick out of reading these posts and the cherry on top is the llama pic right next to all the really wild posts.
 
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