catholic answers forum bars orthodox dicussion

Status
Not open for further replies.

the slave

High Elder
Joined
Oct 18, 2002
Messages
810
Reaction score
0
Points
16
Location
Scotland
I openly admit it - I deliberately created a second ID as I was blazing mad about something that had been posted about Herarchical Appointments - that at that stage had not been announced - and it was being received as gospel truth.

Despite protests from me by PM  the thread stayed -up  so I sort of saw red - created the new ID and within 5 mins got the banning notice.
 

Hesychios

Sr. Member
Site Supporter
Joined
Jan 15, 2005
Messages
171
Reaction score
0
Points
0
Location
Justice, Illinois USA
the slave said:
... I was blazing mad about something that had been posted ...
Yep, that place will do get one seeing red!  :mad:

I got past that long enough to become nauseated by what I read there, and no longer caring about what people think. I still pop in occasionally to have a look-see, and sure enough, same reaction.  :p

My last post contained a line stating that I no longer wished to post after the suspension of Irish Melkite and the secret banning of at least 14 people. I was sure I would get whacked for that. The post was edited in less than an hour.

I have not been banned even so, I just can't stand it anymore and the site was interfering with my spiritual well-being.

Michael
 

the slave

High Elder
Joined
Oct 18, 2002
Messages
810
Reaction score
0
Points
16
Location
Scotland
I know what you mean  Michael .

But there is one snag with all this - questions are being posted that need decent answers - and much of the time the answers they get are very superficial.

I really can't help feeling that it would be better to actually close the Board down :( though it would leave many folk with nowhere to ask these questions and gain some slight scrap of knowledge about  Eastern Spirituality.

The old Eastern Christianity Forum really did work - eternal memory
 

James

Archon
Joined
May 31, 2003
Messages
2,749
Reaction score
0
Points
0
Age
68
Location
Ventura, California
"I just can't stand it anymore and the site was interfering with my spiritual well-being"

Brother Michael,ain't that the truth...
 

prodromos

OC.Net Guru
Joined
Dec 3, 2002
Messages
1,463
Reaction score
0
Points
0
Age
55
Location
Back in OZ
The time between my visits there have been getting longer and longer. I used to be curious as to what was being posted there but have found even that mild interest has waned. I haven't been back there for a while now.

John
 

Mickey

OC.Net Guru
Joined
Nov 9, 2007
Messages
1,309
Reaction score
0
Points
0
Location
USA
prodromos said:
The time between my visits there have been getting longer and longer. I used to be curious as to what was being posted there but have found even that mild interest has waned. I haven't been back there for a while now.
Ditto.
 

ialmisry

Strategos
Joined
Aug 17, 2007
Messages
41,794
Reaction score
0
Points
36
Location
Chicago
Well the exile is over  :police:, but hardly coming home.

I posted a little blurb just to test.  I've been restored.

Just not much to post on anymore.

Solitudinem faciunt et pacem appellant.  They make a dessert and call it peace.
 

Mickey

OC.Net Guru
Joined
Nov 9, 2007
Messages
1,309
Reaction score
0
Points
0
Location
USA
ialmisry said:
They make a dessert and call it peace.
I think you mean, "desert".  :laugh:

Many people make "desserts" for peace offerings.  ;D
 

stashko

Protokentarchos
Joined
Nov 6, 2007
Messages
4,994
Reaction score
0
Points
0
Mickey said:
I think you mean, "desert".   :laugh:

Many people make "desserts" for peace offerings.  ;D
Brother...
Thats Funny i like it.........stashko...............<img src="http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_12_6.gif" alt="SmileyCentral.com" border="0">
 
Joined
Nov 25, 2007
Messages
123
Reaction score
0
Points
0
Age
39
Location
Tacoma, WA
I still like to post there, but I'll probably avoid the Eastern Christianity forum.  If I stay there, I tend to get riled up and post something that tests the boundaries a bit... :)
 

the slave

High Elder
Joined
Oct 18, 2002
Messages
810
Reaction score
0
Points
16
Location
Scotland
Yes - well there you have a problem as it's not Eastern Christianity any longer :(

It's Eastern Catholicism and it shows :)

It does seem to be getting new members though - wonder how ?
 

Hesychios

Sr. Member
Site Supporter
Joined
Jan 15, 2005
Messages
171
Reaction score
0
Points
0
Location
Justice, Illinois USA
I think they have been invited in, by someone.

That's OK, I guess.

The quality of the place has not improved, and I do not believe that Eastern Catholics are properly represented there. It is also open season on Orthodox, with the peppering of "drive by" posts (although that is not the place for it).

I suppose they are looking for a place to support themselves in their misconceptions.

I had expected that one of the newer participants would raise the level of discourse there, but I think he is not really paying attention to where some of those other posters are going with their comments. He may regret that later.

I came across an interesting quote earlier today..
"One's imagination is a good servant, and a bad master"

I prefer not to think that these various people are outright liars, I think that they are victims of their imaginations.
 

username!

Protokentarchos
Site Supporter
Joined
Aug 21, 2005
Messages
5,090
Reaction score
0
Points
0
Location
Where Iron hydrochloride ruins watersheds
Regardless of who was brought in, the forum has hit the bottom and landed on spikes.
There is no way anyone can man a defence for Orthodox over there now.  I guess the war is officially over, especially when they start threads attacking Eastern Orthodox and there isn't any substance to a single post in those threads and I simply can't say anything, I'm going toe-to-toe with the two or three main opinion groups that make up the posts on the forum anymore.  I know the responses and I would be lead into citing, referencing and making elaborate replies to the post and they'd just repeat themselves and not argue with any academic style.
Example:
P:Eastern Orthodox are all ________ ________ because on this date _____ this happened and in _______
the great Pope ________ made this comment.  Therefore they are out of the church and there is no salvation or grace.. blah blah blah

Response:  Enough information to get your master's thesis in front of the judges

P:  there is no salvation outside of the church and therefore the Eastern Orthodox have ________ and are _______ because the Pope is ___________ and therefore I'm right and everyone else is wrong

There is no point in wasting time if it isn't going to be read or disputed with a real post!!!!!  That is the point of discussion. 
If that forum wants to look and support attitudes that run contrary to the position of the Roman Catholic Church, then so be it.  I know there are plenty of knowledge laden Eastern Catholics that read all of these boards that could add much over there.  Because not only are the Orthodox ridiculed the Eastern Catholics are as well. 
It is a shame when the forum was to revert back to an informational spot for Catholics to learn about the Eastern Rites, which is one thing... but when it turns into a place for attacks by Catholics against Catholics... that's just a whole other box of cigars. 
And while I am ranting, I have seen the latin-refugee attitude that the Eastern churches are just good enough to escape the mass in the Roman churches, they aren't mindful of the very deep and cultural histories of the churches they use as a feel good place and they aren't respectful enough to learn the different methods of worship or anything about the community.  They just demonstrate that it is just another offering on the buffet table of Catholicism they get to choose from whenever one Rite of Worship style tires them.  This is not what the Eastern Churches are made for, I can assure you that.
They are communities that were formed by and most likely still consist of families who have strong and old country ties to the very existence of the particular sui juris church in the first place.  These members are are Greek Catholic/Byzantine Catholic not only by their personal convictions but also by actual historical events that happened to their ancestors.  When people go in and use their churches as feel good places it is a mockery of not only the church members beliefs but also their shared heritage.  While there is nothing wrong about attending a Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church* as a Latin Catholic one should be mindful of the history of the people and why they have a UGCC and also perhaps more important, or another part of the equation, they should be willing to learn and understand the worship practices of the Byzantine Rite. 
Anyway, I'm done ranting.

*I chose the UGCC for this example but you could insert any of the Eastern Catholic Churches.
Everyone one of them has a history to their existence.  For example, besides the historical happenings in the mid to late 1600's the UGCC exists as it does today because the persecution during the Soviet rule created a strong faith among the Ukrainian Catholics and after communism fell the UGCC came out of the catacombs with their faith having been made stronger by the trials they faced.  I don't care what a person's argument for or against the Eastern Catholic churches are, you simply can not help but admiring the faith and love for the church despite such persecution.  Things to remember, everyone has a story, sometimes the story should be very respected even though you may have different beliefs. 
 

welkodox

Archon
Joined
Aug 30, 2006
Messages
2,076
Reaction score
0
Points
0
I have a theory that arguing about religion over the Inernet with complete strangers over time makes you profoundly weird.  Maybe they're just doing everyone a favor.
 

Mickey

OC.Net Guru
Joined
Nov 9, 2007
Messages
1,309
Reaction score
0
Points
0
Location
USA
AMM said:
I have a theory that arguing about religion over the Inernet with complete strangers over time makes you profoundly weird. 
I'm koo-koo for coco puffs. Koo-Koo for coco puffs. <a href="http://plugin.smileycentral.com/http%253A%252F%252Fwww.smileycentral.com%252F%253Fpartner%253DZSzeb008%255FZSYYYYYYCQUS%2526i%253D4%252F4%255F11%255F10%2526feat%253Dprof/page.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_11_10.gif" alt="SmileyCentral.com" border="0">
 

Joab Anias

Member
Joined
Nov 19, 2007
Messages
145
Reaction score
0
Points
0
AMM said:
I have a theory that arguing about religion over the Inernet with complete strangers over time makes you profoundly weird.  Maybe they're just doing everyone a favor.
Can we getta Amena ta tha ma brothas an sistas in the great and almighty lord Jesus tha Christa ~ Alleluiaa Whew!
:laugh:
 

ozgeorge

Hoplitarches
Site Supporter
Joined
Mar 2, 2004
Messages
16,379
Reaction score
0
Points
0
Age
54
Location
Australia
Website
www.greekorthodox.org.au
AMM said:
I have a theory that arguing about religion over the Inernet with complete strangers over time makes you profoundly weird.  Maybe they're just doing everyone a favor.
Thanks for your theory, but since when has censorship and bibliocaust ever done anyone a favour?
 

welkodox

Archon
Joined
Aug 30, 2006
Messages
2,076
Reaction score
0
Points
0
In its life the church has silenced clerics, destroyed the works of heretics and condoned or overseen the violent suppression of groups it deemed a threat to the established order.  Whether or not those have ultimately had favorable results is up for debate.

A moderated forum by nature is a place of censorship, even if of a mild form.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top