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Joab, you need to toughen up the skin brother, I get hurt when I get ignored, which is quite often, don't push away from the table of dialog, that's the easy way out...

time for a few bayer aspirin and a ale chaser...

pax etc etc
 

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Joab Anias said:
The purpose of this very thread is so contrary to the message of the Gospel in so many ways I cannot begin to make that evident to those with no ear to hear.
How would you suggest that we be more in keeping with the message of the Gospel?
Would you suggest we remove the Orthodox-Catholic Discussion Forum and merge it with the "Western Rite Orthodox Forum" and secretly ban Roman Catholic posters?
 

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Well it has taken me long enough but I have finally earned a one month suspension. Unlike most here I did actually have to push the envelope a bit, so I definitely deserved this. I had responded to spikman asking for assurance about his decision to move towards Orthodoxy, saying:
you aren't going to get much support to go Orthodox on this forum. Though their profiles do not show it, the vast majority of Orthodox members at CA have been banned, and those few who haven't like myself, have little desire to post here anymore.
I've also had another post deleted where I also mentioned the banning. I'm surprised I didn't receive a caution for that one too.

I feel better now ;), I'd been feeling so neglected.
 

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ozgeorge said:
How would you suggest that we be more in keeping with the message of the Gospel?
Would you suggest we remove the Orthodox-Catholic Discussion Forum and merge it with the "Western Rite Orthodox Forum" and secretly ban Roman Catholic posters?
A pink slip in my future?  ;) :laugh:
 

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Haven't gotten banned yet, but boy do they love to move posts around.  There was one thread in particular that was over the edge anti-Orthodox over "there."  Some of us posted in response and you know what?  They moved the answers to just enough different "new threads" that the defense argument got split up and the Anti-Orthodoxy still shines.  It's funny.  On the Eastern Catholic board the posts/threads are to be informative for non-Eastern Catholics.  So I WAS Greek Catholic.  So why then are the catholics that prefer ancient languages allowed to chime in with their own two cents while not adding solid answers based on years of being an Eastern Catholic?  But yet, when those who do have the Easetern Catholic life experience are basically silenced.  So it's a place to get answers but those that have the answers and give them without a biased approached are taken out. 
 

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prodromos said:
Well it has taken me long enough but I have finally earned a one month suspension. Unlike most here I did actually have to push the envelope a bit, so I definitely deserved this. I had responded to spikman asking for assurance about his decision to move towards Orthodoxy, saying:
Was that one deleted as well?
 

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prodromos said:
Well it has taken me long enough but I have finally earned a one month suspension. Unlike most here I did actually have to push the envelope a bit, so I definitely deserved this. I had responded to spikman asking for assurance about his decision to move towards Orthodoxy, saying:I've also had another post deleted where I also mentioned the banning. I'm surprised I didn't receive a caution for that one too.
John, my friend,

If you get by with only a month for that, I'll be most surprised, although Catherine's efforts these days appear to be much taken up with policing threads to assure that topics are split off as often as is necessary to segment discussion.

Many years,

Neil
 

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prodromos said:
Well it has taken me long enough but I have finally earned a one month suspension. Unlike most here I did actually have to push the envelope a bit, so I definitely deserved this. I had responded to spikman asking for assurance about his decision to move towards Orthodoxy, saying:I've also had another post deleted where I also mentioned the banning...
The thing to do, I have found, is to make the post knowing it will probably not last long in that state, but send an exact copy by PM to the intended recipient.

If any part of your post is deleted you can be sure the recipient will become very aware of that.

Michael
 

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Regardless of who was brought in, the forum has hit the bottom and landed on spikes.
There is no way anyone can man a defence for Orthodox over there now.  I guess the war is officially over, especially when they start threads attacking Eastern Orthodox and there isn't any substance to a single post in those threads and I simply can't say anything, I'm going toe-to-toe with the two or three main opinion groups that make up the posts on the forum anymore.  I know the responses and I would be lead into citing, referencing and making elaborate replies to the post and they'd just repeat themselves and not argue with any academic style.
Example:
P:Eastern Orthodox are all ________ ________ because on this date _____ this happened and in _______
the great Pope ________ made this comment.  Therefore they are out of the church and there is no salvation or grace.. blah blah blah

Response:  Enough information to get your master's thesis in front of the judges

P:  there is no salvation outside of the church and therefore the Eastern Orthodox have ________ and are _______ because the Pope is ___________ and therefore I'm right and everyone else is wrong

There is no point in wasting time if it isn't going to be read or disputed with a real post!!!!!  That is the point of discussion. 
If that forum wants to look and support attitudes that run contrary to the position of the Roman Catholic Church, then so be it.  I know there are plenty of knowledge laden Eastern Catholics that read all of these boards that could add much over there.  Because not only are the Orthodox ridiculed the Eastern Catholics are as well. 
It is a shame when the forum was to revert back to an informational spot for Catholics to learn about the Eastern Rites, which is one thing... but when it turns into a place for attacks by Catholics against Catholics... that's just a whole other box of cigars. 
And while I am ranting, I have seen the latin-refugee attitude that the Eastern churches are just good enough to escape the mass in the Roman churches, they aren't mindful of the very deep and cultural histories of the churches they use as a feel good place and they aren't respectful enough to learn the different methods of worship or anything about the community.  They just demonstrate that it is just another offering on the buffet table of Catholicism they get to choose from whenever one Rite of Worship style tires them.  This is not what the Eastern Churches are made for, I can assure you that.
They are communities that were formed by and most likely still consist of families who have strong and old country ties to the very existence of the particular sui juris church in the first place.  These members are are Greek Catholic/Byzantine Catholic not only by their personal convictions but also by actual historical events that happened to their ancestors.  When people go in and use their churches as feel good places it is a mockery of not only the church members beliefs but also their shared heritage.  While there is nothing wrong about attending a Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church* as a Latin Catholic one should be mindful of the history of the people and why they have a UGCC and also perhaps more important, or another part of the equation, they should be willing to learn and understand the worship practices of the Byzantine Rite. 
Anyway, I'm done ranting.

*I chose the UGCC for this example but you could insert any of the Eastern Catholic Churches.
Everyone one of them has a history to their existence.  For example, besides the historical happenings in the mid to late 1600's the UGCC exists as it does today because the persecution during the Soviet rule created a strong faith among the Ukrainian Catholics and after communism fell the UGCC came out of the catacombs with their faith having been made stronger by the trials they faced.  I don't care what a person's argument for or against the Eastern Catholic churches are, you simply can not help but admiring the faith and love for the church despite such persecution.  Things to remember, everyone has a story, sometimes the story should be very respected even though you may have different beliefs. 
I agree. Isa and myself have been arguing a couple guys in a thread callled "Unstructured Thread". We've been mopping the floor with these guys by buliding arguments cited on historical facts, canons, and scriptures while picking apart their fallacious responses. (A common tactic of theirs has been to throw a dozen quotes at us without even trying to explain what it is they are trying to prove). Anyway, it gets tiring like running around in circles. They are not interested in honest debate only diatribes. I think that I've learned all that I can over there and am ready to take more steps to enter the Orthodox Church.
 

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cs22408 said:
I agree. Isa and myself have been arguing a couple guys in a thread callled "Unstructured Thread". We've been mopping the floor with these guys by buliding arguments cited on historical facts, canons, and scriptures while picking apart their fallacious responses. (A common tactic of theirs has been to throw a dozen quotes at us without even trying to explain what it is they are trying to prove). Anyway, it gets tiring like running around in circles. They are not interested in honest debate only diatribes. I think that I've learned all that I can over there and am ready to take more steps to enter the Orthodox Church.
And may I add that you and Isa have done a superb job on that thread. You will be an asset to Holy Orthodoxy!
 

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cs22408 said:
I agree. Isa and myself have been arguing a couple guys in a thread callled "Unstructured Thread". We've been mopping the floor with these guys by buliding arguments cited on historical facts, canons, and scriptures while picking apart their fallacious responses. (A common tactic of theirs has been to throw a dozen quotes at us without even trying to explain what it is they are trying to prove). Anyway, it gets tiring like running around in circles. They are not interested in honest debate only diatribes. I think that I've learned all that I can over there and am ready to take more steps to enter the Orthodox Church.
I just read that thread. I can't believe that poster has not been banned yet. The best part is how calm the Orthodox responses are.
 

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I got to say you  Micky, isa, and varc did a most exellent job in defense of holy orthodox on catholic answers  non catholic sub-forum.....i just got thru reading your posts.....God bless you all .....keep up the good work .....stashko
 

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Apotheoun said:
Sadly, CA Forum appears to have turned into an anti-Orthodox and anti-Eastern Catholic diatribe.
Isn't that the truth...:(

I find myself posting less and less on there. Most of the time, I just sit back and watch. Some of the responses really tick me off though, especially when people try to rewrite history. My favorite is when people say the Orthodox left the Church and are therefore schismatic. Oh please! It was Rome who sent them/us (would have been in same boat at that time) away! Even though I am still Catholic, I will certainly not back such false notions or anti-Orthodox sentimates--especially as I seek to be more like an Orthodox under Rome and maybe someday soon (still praying while I study), fully Orthodox ;)
 

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Ah, you gotta love em.
I pop into the forums for the first time since my suspension has ended and look what awaits me
Hello prodromos,

It appears that you have not posted on our forums in quite some time. Why not take a few moments to:

    * Add your voice in prayer,
    * Ask a question,
    * Join the Book Club,
    * Comment on the News,
    * or just engage in a conversation with another member in any of our forums?

May the Peace of Our Lord Shine Upon You,
;D
 

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prodromos said:
Ah, you gotta love em.
I pop into the forums for the first time since my suspension has ended and look what awaits me ;D
Yes, I noticed your return.

I've posted more as it seems that they can't keep a lid on Orthodoxy, at most moving it to "Non-Catholic Forum"
 
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