Corona Virus Vaccine Poll

[Averoff]

I hope someday we discover the real origin of this virus, in the present the matter is too political to conduct real investigation.

 

[hecma925]

And sometimes they die. It's an occupational hazard.

Yep.

 

[J Michael]

And sometimes they die. It's an occupational hazard.

A fate that awaits us all regardless of occupation.

 

[Ainnir]

I'm scheduled to get my first Pfizer shot tomorrow.
Apparently I'm supposed to skip the gym for a couple of days, up to a week? Any other pointers welcome.

 

[Asteriktos]

I didn't experience it, but apparently a lot of people are exhausted or zonked out afterwards, so probably the standard "be careful operating heavy machinery" type recommendations apply if things seem to be going that way for you?

 

[Arachne]

I didn't experience it, but apparently a lot of people are exhausted or zonked out afterwards, so probably the standard "be careful operating heavy machinery" type recommendations apply if things seem to be going that way for you?

It's a very common reaction, across the spectrum of available vaccines. It was pretty much the only side effect we had in the household (between a Pfizer and two AZs).

 

[Luke]

I'm scheduled to get my first Pfizer shot tomorrow.
Apparently I'm supposed to skip the gym for a couple of days, up to a week? Any other pointers welcome.

That is good. My folks, who had Pfizer , were tired the next day. One of my brothers and I had Moderna and were also tired the next day.

 

[JTLoganville]

If you have had COVID (even mildly) or reasonably believe that you have been exposed it would be good to take 500mg of Tylenol about 90 minutes before the dose and continue taking the 500 mg for the next 24-36 hours.

If you don't take the Tylenol this time, but develop nasty side effects like chills, nauseau, hot flashes, and headaches, then by all means take Tylenol before the second dose.

 

[Ainnir]

Thanks!! I didn't realize the fatigue was so common. We'll see what happens. I can't be zonked out tomorrow, though. Think coffee would counteract it?

 

[Opus118]

I had no serious symptoms. I went to work after both of my shots. I did get a headache from the second shot but it went away after a couple of hours. There is no reason to skip the gym. You are more lilkely to have a heightened immune response on the second shot. I was kind of disappointed that it wasn't more severe in my case since that is a sign of good immune response.

I'm scheduled to get my first Pfizer shot tomorrow.
Apparently I'm supposed to skip the gym for a couple of days, up to a week? Any other pointers welcome.

 

[hecma925]

I was kind of disappointed that it wasn't more severe in my case since that is a sign of good immune response.

You could have died on the extreme end of immune responses.

 

[Opus118]

Only extremists worry about things like this. I am a moderate in most things. but I do like reassurance that I am capable of an immune response.

 

[Ainnir]

Only extremists worry about things like this. I am a moderate in most things. but I do like reassurance that I am capable of an immune response.

I'm not interested in stirring up an immune response, and having dealt with immunotherapy for 7 years, know that can be deadly and is specifically discouraged in that case because it can induce an anaphylactic reaction. That was why I went googling to begin with; the results are pretty scattered: wait two hours, 48 hours, a week.
Given the symptoms of the Delta strain are apparently runny nose, sore throat and headache, I very well could have already had it, anyway.

 

[J Michael]

Sick of Covid? Alex Berenson is:

It isn't over until they say it's over

So we need to make them

alexberenson.substack.com

The comments are very much worth reading, too.

This is an earlier article of his:

Vaccines, reasons for concern, part 3

If the Covid vaccines work, why are highly vaccinated countries like Israel and the United Kingdom seeing spikes in caseloads?

alexberenson.substack.com

 

[Christos3]

I had the one shot J&J. I was tired and had leg swelling (mild) first 24 hours. After that just pain at the injection site. Our youngest (17) just had the first round of Pfizer. No adverse reaction. We did give him Tylenol prior to the shot and afterwards. Maybe that helped. Hopefully no issues at the second round.

 

[Arachne]

Sick of Covid? Alex Berenson is:

It isn't over until they say it's over

So we need to make them

alexberenson.substack.com

The comments are very much worth reading, too.

This is an earlier article of his:

Vaccines, reasons for concern, part 3

If the Covid vaccines work, why are highly vaccinated countries like Israel and the United Kingdom seeing spikes in caseloads?

alexberenson.substack.com

Neither the comments nor the articles are worth the pixels that display them.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/04/pandemics-wrongest-man/618475/

 

[J Michael]

Can't say I disagree with him on any of these:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1412012537986568193

 

[Arachne]

I don't disagree with this one either.

 

[Averoff]

I had a little fatigue after the first shot of Pfizer, came home and slept a couple of hours. But that may have been simply nervous fatigue, who knows? After the second shot I had a slightly sore arm, but that's about it. I'm 66 and they say older folks have less side effects, who knows?

I wouldn't worry too much about it, even the younger people I spoke with who had Pfizer said a little fatigue and that's about it. Nothing major.

 

[JTLoganville]

My wife was hospitalized at Christmas with COVID + pneumonia, and has since recovered well.

We received conflicting advice from physicians who are family friends; one said "Don't get the vaccination", another said "probably a good idea", and a third said "why not?"

So she received the Pfizer. After each injection she was lethargic and "good for nothing" for the next 24-36 hours....again, while anecdotal, it seems that those who have had COVID (even asymptomatically) have the more difficult reactions.

 

[Averoff]

My wife was hospitalized at Christmas with COVID + pneumonia, and has since recovered well.

We received conflicting advice from physicians who are family friends; one said "Don't get the vaccination", another said "probably a good idea", and a third said "why not?"

So she received the Pfizer. After each injection she was lethargic and "good for nothing" for the next 24-36 hours....again, while anecdotal, it seems that those who have had COVID (even asymptomatically) have the more difficult reactions.

From what I've read online, getting the Pfizer vaccination after recovering from COVID will increase your immunity to reinfection. But, since you already have some immunity developed from the disease itself, you'll probably have more severe side effects. All vaccination side effects are afterall is a demonstration that your immune system is working properly. I think you and your wife did the right thing, she should be ultra-immune to reinfection after the vaccinations (is she getting both Pfizer vaccinations?)

 

[Ainnir]

So far, a little arm soreness; that's it. Thank God. I didn't have time to be tired or feel crappy.

 

[JTLoganville]

I think you and your wife did the right thing, she should be ultra-immune to reinfection after the vaccinations (is she getting both Pfizer vaccinations?)

She received both....similar reactions to each in spite of the Tylenol regimen. Totally wiped for the next 24-36 hours. That is all long behind.

 

[PorphyriosK]

Fake social media accounts used to spread propoganda.

 

[J Michael]

Fake social media accounts used to spread propoganda.
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Zuby says (see post #457 above): " 4/ Propaganda is just as effective in the modern day as it was 100 years ago. Access to limitless information has not made the average person any wiser. "

" 5/ Anything and everything can and will be politicised by the media, government, and those who trust them. "

" 10/ When sufficiently frightened, most people will not only accept authoritarianism, but demand it. "

Cue the daughter of Idmon .

 

[Arachne]

We found it absolutely hilariously appropriate that Boris and Javid spent so-called Freedom Day in isolation (which they tried to weasel out of, but public opinion wasn't having it). There was much snickering behind our masks as we went about our business. The guy who had botched the exit from lockdown twice already was bound to make a threepeat.

 

[PorphyriosK]

The conspiracy is not a "theory". This is actual brainwashing.

 

[Ainnir]

So stay off Twitter.

 

[Arachne]

So stay off Twitter.

+1. You'll live better, and potentially longer.

 

[Christos3]

In my little world I have one friend who was vaccinated (JnJ) tested positive. He was on a mission trip in Central America. He didn't know he had it, just came up positive on the test before flying back to the states. I have one friend pass away (36, good health, not vaxed) earlier this month, and hearing more 2nd hand unvaxed people testing positive and having more severe symptoms than the original Covid. Several younger men I know have decided to finally get vaxed. The Biden administration is releasing illegals into the the US without testing or mandating they are vaxed. The illegals are being dropped off into all parts of the country. Madness.

 

[biro]

Please prove the last three sentences.

 

[J Michael]

Please prove the last three sentences.

This is verging on getting political, but if you watch or read the news, the proof is there. Unfortunately, most of the MSM aren't covering the mess at the southern border and the reasons for it. Fox, Newsmax, The Washington Examiner, etc. are. You can either choose to believe them or not. The videos from Fox News are pretty compelling.

 

[biro]

All right, that’s it.

I’m done.

Doesn’t mean I will never post again, but I will watch my count, like I’m supposed to with sugar.

 

[Arachne]

The Biden administration is releasing illegals into the the US without testing or mandating they are vaxed. The illegals are being dropped off into all parts of the country.

You mean this? Or this? Or this?

 

[Pravoslavbob]

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