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Craziest things Christians have said about atheists/non-believers.

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orthonorm said:
biro said:
I've never seen troll defined as something positive.
Cause you are a n00b.

Share your cred.
To quote an expert:

I remember back in the day when trolls were welcome clever people to keep newsgroups on their toes. The word has been watered down to the least common of denominators.

I used troll pretty hard. I knew of one troll who probably pulled the biggest job on a group once. Involved a faked death after years of posting and appearing later at a meet-up. Everyone since having a great sense of humor and old to the internet game gave nothing but respect to the guy.

GiC could troll if he wanted to, God knows he has enough brain cells and expertise to probably sock puppet at least five believable experts on this forum.
http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,35307.msg556858.html#msg556858

BTW, look at that thread. And see how far the OP has come. I am so proud.
 

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Did you seriously just quote yourself as proof?
 

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orthonorm said:
biro said:
I've never seen troll defined as something positive.
Cause you are a n00b.

Share your cred.
Um, no. I've been on boards and in chat rooms for at least 16 years.

How would you even know?

The only people who think trolling is positive are, of course, trolls.
 

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theo philosopher said:
As for the thread itself - I know better than to try to respond to it point-by-point. It's an inherent "troll" thread with people who have no intention of defending their claims. So why bother? :)
Well, for once you're correct (don't let it go to your head, it's just once). While I'm willing to spend hours looking through the Bible, Church Fathers, etc. coming up with posts for this site, with most of the content frankly having little to no practical application or benefit for me, nonetheless I had no intentions of responding to some of the posts in this thread. Some problems would be too frustrating to try to fix, some problems are obviously dumb arguments to begin with, and yet other problems would require that someone change a major part of their world view before they admitted that they were wrong.

Though now that I think about it, 90% of the arguments are probably a bit of all three.

A priest (who was actually a practicing psychologist in his secular life) once told me that I don't suffer fools gladly. He was to a large extent right. Though I've learned to keep my mouth shut a lot of the time.

Btw, this thread was originally meant to be light hearted. Hence the winking emoticon as part of the Message Icon. There was also the "Ahh, now I feel better" thing. So much for that!  :police: Many seemed not to pick up on it's tone, and tried to turn it into a debate. Which I guess I should have expected; and yet, as I said earlier, is a bit depressing.
 

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Asteriktos said:
Many seemed not to pick up on it's tone, and tried to turn it into a debate. Which I guess I should have expected; and yet, as I said earlier, is a bit depressing.
It's like you are looking over my shoulder.
 

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Asteriktos said:
theo philosopher said:
As for the thread itself - I know better than to try to respond to it point-by-point. It's an inherent "troll" thread with people who have no intention of defending their claims. So why bother? :)
Well, for once you're correct (don't let it go to your head, it's just once). While I'm willing to spend hours looking through the Bible, Church Fathers, etc. coming up with posts for this site, with most of the content frankly having little to no practical application or benefit for me, nonetheless I had no intentions of responding to some of the posts in this thread. Some problems would be too frustrating to try to fix, some problems are obviously dumb arguments to begin with, and yet other problems would require that someone change a major part of their world view before they admitted that they were wrong.

Though now that I think about it, 90% of the arguments are probably a bit of all three.

A priest (who was actually a practicing psychologist in his secular life) once told me that I don't suffer fools gladly. He was to a large extent right. Though I've learned to keep my mouth shut a lot of the time.

Btw, this thread was originally meant to be light hearted. Hence the winking emoticon as part of the Message Icon. There was also the "Ahh, now I feel better" thing. So much for that!  :police: Many seemed not to pick up on it's tone, and tried to turn it into a debate. Which I guess I should have expected; and yet, as I said earlier, is a bit depressing.
Considering your flirtations with atheism I took it seriously. My apologies.
 

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orthonorm said:
Asteriktos said:
Many seemed not to pick up on it's tone, and tried to turn it into a debate. Which I guess I should have expected; and yet, as I said earlier, is a bit depressing.
It's like you are looking over my shoulder.
Turn around.
 

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Azurestone said:
Did you seriously just quote yourself as proof?
This is surprising. //:=)

Would wikipedia be better?

Let's check together, never thought to before on such a silly subject:

Commonly, what is meant is a relatively gentle inside joke by veteran users, presenting questions or topics that had been so overdone that only a new user would respond to them earnestly. For example, a veteran of the group might make a post on the common misconception that glass flows over time. Long-time readers would both recognize the poster's name and know that the topic had been discussed a lot, but new subscribers to the group would not realize, and would thus respond. These types of trolls served as a practice to identify group insiders. This definition of trolling, considerably narrower than the modern understanding of the term, was considered a positive contribution
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)#Early_history
 

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biro said:
orthonorm said:
biro said:
I've never seen troll defined as something positive.
Cause you are a n00b.

Share your cred.
Um, no. I've been on boards and in chat rooms for at least 16 years.

How would you even know?

The only people who think trolling is positive are, of course, trolls.
16 years . . . let's do the math, it's like 2011?

2011
-  16
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1995

n00b

 

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We even had different names for people. All kindsa shibboleths depending on the group.

Good times. Then AOL happened and all that home access garbage for the everyman, then Netscape, then worse dejanews, then even worser: google groups.

 

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IsmiLiora said:
orthonorm said:
Asteriktos said:
Many seemed not to pick up on it's tone, and tried to turn it into a debate. Which I guess I should have expected; and yet, as I said earlier, is a bit depressing.
It's like you are looking over my shoulder.
Turn around.
Don't turn around
'Cause you're gonna see my heart breaking
Don't turn around
I don't want you seeing me cry
 

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Aposphet said:
Considering your flirtations with atheism I took it seriously. My apologies.
Don't want him hitting on your girl? Totally acceptable or understandable. I get those two confused. //:=)
 

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LOVE THAT SONG.
I'm going to start quoting music I know.

My friends are amazed at what I don't know or have even heard of at karaoke.
 

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orthonorm said:
Aposphet said:
Considering your flirtations with atheism I took it seriously. My apologies.
Don't want him hitting on your girl? Totally acceptable or understandable. I get those two confused. //:=)
She's been a faithless whore.
 

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Aposphet said:
orthonorm said:
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Considering your flirtations with atheism I took it seriously. My apologies.
Don't want him hitting on your girl? Totally acceptable or understandable. I get those two confused. //:=)
She's been a faithless whore.
NICE!!!
 

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orthonorm said:
IsmiLiora said:
LOVE THAT SONG.
I'm going to start quoting music I know.

My friends are amazed at what I don't know or have even heard of at karaoke.
Oh wah, you're so old, I'm a hipster, I know, I know.  :laugh:

And a lot of it depends on upbringing. My father and mother blasted Eurodance all throughout my childhood. They have videos of me dancing to the stuff.

I know a lot of random music but I fail whenever I pick a Beatles song on the Cranium Humdingers category. I can only hum the verse line. No one would want to be on my team for that part, but I knock out the Gnilleps every single time.
 

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Asteriktos said:
theo philosopher said:
As for the thread itself - I know better than to try to respond to it point-by-point. It's an inherent "troll" thread with people who have no intention of defending their claims. So why bother? :)
Well, for once you're correct (don't let it go to your head, it's just once). While I'm willing to spend hours looking through the Bible, Church Fathers, etc. coming up with posts for this site, with most of the content frankly having little to no practical application or benefit for me, nonetheless I had no intentions of responding to some of the posts in this thread. Some problems would be too frustrating to try to fix, some problems are obviously dumb arguments to begin with, and yet other problems would require that someone change a major part of their world view before they admitted that they were wrong.

Though now that I think about it, 90% of the arguments are probably a bit of all three.

A priest (who was actually a practicing psychologist in his secular life) once told me that I don't suffer fools gladly. He was to a large extent right. Though I've learned to keep my mouth shut a lot of the time.

Btw, this thread was originally meant to be light hearted. Hence the winking emoticon as part of the Message Icon. There was also the "Ahh, now I feel better" thing. So much for that!  :police: Many seemed not to pick up on it's tone, and tried to turn it into a debate. Which I guess I should have expected; and yet, as I said earlier, is a bit depressing.
Sorry  :-\

I honestly thought it was a challenging notion, of how to prevent making the same argumentative mistakes, with a little bit of a joke in it (hence the dbag part)
 

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Aposphet said:
IsmiLiora said:
LOVE THAT SONG.
I forgot the best part:

WHOA-O
If you wanna leave, I won't beg you to stay.
And if you go, darling, maybe it's better that way.
I'm gonna be strong, I'm gonna be fine, don't worry about this heart of mine.

(Genius stuff, amirite?)
 

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IsmiLiora said:
orthonorm said:
IsmiLiora said:
LOVE THAT SONG.
I'm going to start quoting music I know.

My friends are amazed at what I don't know or have even heard of at karaoke.
Oh wah, you're so old, I'm a hipster, I know, I know.  :laugh:

And a lot of it depends on upbringing. My father and mother blasted Eurodance all throughout my childhood. They have videos of me dancing to the stuff.

I know a lot of random music but I fail whenever I pick a Beatles song on the Cranium Humdingers category. I can only hum the verse line. No one would want to be on my team for that part, but I knock out the Gnilleps every single time.
I mean, I don't know hardly any of the stuff, I ain't talking marginal stuff. All white people music.

The white people music I know comes from films where the music is just pitch perfect for the scene (every film by PT Anderson for example), hence some of my odd knowledges.

Or places I work and had to listen to over and over without knowing who sang the stuff.

Or friends or past loves where there are sentimental attachments.



 

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IsmiLiora said:
Aposphet said:
IsmiLiora said:
LOVE THAT SONG.
I forgot the best part:

WHOA-O
If you wanna leave, I won't beg you to stay.
And if you go, darling, maybe it's better that way.
I'm gonna be strong, I'm gonna be fine, don't worry about this heart of mine.

(Genius stuff, amirite?)
I gotta start writing lyrics . . .
 

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What are you classifying as white people music, now?
 

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What are you classifying as white people music, now?
Whatever was ostensibly popular, like everyone in the bar knows and I am clueless.
 

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akimori makoto said:
orthonorm said:
IsmiLiora said:
What are you classifying as white people music, now?
Whatever was ostensibly popular, like everyone in the bar knows and I am clueless.
Orthonorm, bro, are you some kind of self-loathing hipster?
Ummm they all cheer and love the schlocky music in an ironic manner. I grew around black and hicks.
 

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orthonorm said:
JamesRottnek said:
Atheists can be good, but they can never really have a standard (that isn't arbitrary) by which to judge their own goodness.
Not for this to descend into unhappy, unfun, but Christians have been really steady and in agrement in their morals over the millennia. lulz. If you want to argue about this, not only do I have proof but also a place where you do it:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/
I didn't say they were.  Rather, I said that Atheists can have no objective standard by which to judge what is or isn't good, certainly there are many Christians like this as well.
 

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orthonorm said:
akimori makoto said:
orthonorm said:
IsmiLiora said:
What are you classifying as white people music, now?
Whatever was ostensibly popular, like everyone in the bar knows and I am clueless.
Orthonorm, bro, are you some kind of self-loathing hipster?
Ummm they all cheer and love the schlocky music in an ironic manner. I grew around black and hicks.
You know, my buddy has some bluegrass rap music.
 

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IsmiLiora said:
What are you classifying as white people music, now?
White people music is what it has been since Roman times.  Metal!
 

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*, brilliant. You are getting them to come and say there own crazy things in earnest.
Yeah, but don't you kinda find it depressing? I mean, these aren't dumb people here, and yet...
And yet what?
I hope you are brilliantly playing the straight man here , but I fear you are not. (I swear no innuendo about RCs there. Seriously.)
 

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What's the official, 73et $p34k, better-than-crack, word for troll?
 

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Azurestone said:
What's the official, 73et $p34k, better-than-crack, word for troll?
Eh, for a bit I felt like some people were being trollish as well, but I've since realised that this isn't the case. Some people are consistent in how they approach things like this, and I shouldn't have expected otherwise on this thread.
 

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Azurestone said:
What's the official, 73et $p34k, better-than-crack, word for troll?
The name of either two of the newer notorious posters here. Both names begin with the same letter and end with the same sound.

I don't know who is brillianter.

 

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IsmiLiora said:
Aposphet said:
IsmiLiora said:
LOVE THAT SONG.
I forgot the best part:

WHOA-O
If you wanna leave, I won't beg you to stay.
And if you go, darling, maybe it's better that way.
I'm gonna be strong, I'm gonna be fine, don't worry about this heart of mine.

(Genius stuff, amirite?)
All that she wants is another baby...eeyyo

A friend of mine in high school was a huge Ace of Base fan which is funny because he was such a stan of Tupac.
 

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Papist said:
Asteriktos said:
orthonorm said:
*, brilliant. You are getting them to come and say there own crazy things in earnest.
Yeah, but don't you kinda find it depressing? I mean, these aren't dumb people here, and yet...
And yet what?
Please review the thread, now that some time has passed. :)
 

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Justin Kissel said:
1) Atheism is a religion
You'd have to define the term, "religion." While atheism may not have rituals and sacraments, it is certainly a dogmatically held belief system.
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2) Atheists have no morality of their own, and just steal Christian morality
Atheists try very hard to create moral systems of their own, but they can't rationally justify those systems. I agree with the atheist Sartre: If there is no God, then everything is permissible.
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3) They're only atheists because they want to continue their perverted practices
This may be true of some atheists, but I don't life inside of atheists' heads, so I don't know the percentage. I do know that human beings are not always objective in their quest for knowledge and truth.
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4) Atheists are just people who are angry at God
This may be true of some, but not all atheists.
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5) Atheists only attack Christians, because Christianity is the one true religion
It is interesting that Christianity seems to be the favorite target of atheists. I doubt they consciously attack it thinking, "this is the one true religion, so I must destroy it." Of course, the Devil may influence atheists to attach Christianity for this very reason.
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6) Atheism logically leads to nihilism, so they should just kill themselves
I have yet to see a good, objective reason that an atheist can give for not being a nihilist.
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7) Only people on the internet listen to atheists, never in real life
I'm not sure what this means. I will say that I have a great time shattering atheists' preconceived notions of what I, as a Christian and philosopher, think about the world.
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8 ) Atheists are usually adult men living in the basement of their parents
I can't speak from personal experience on this one, but stereotypes exist for a reason. ;)
Justin Kissel said:
9) Atheists love evolution because it gives them an excuse to act like an animal
Again, I'm not an atheist, so I can't speak from personal experience. I don't love or hate evolution. It's just a scientific fact that I accept.
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10) Atheists are blind and refuse to see the overwhelming evidence for the existence of God
I think this is definitely true of popular atheists who refuse to engage in meaningful discussion with the thought and works of intelligent theistic apologists. In fact, I think it is definitely true of Dawkins, since he purposefully misrepresents the best arguments of his best opponents.
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11) Atheism has caused more death in the world than any other religion
That's actually a statistical fact when one takes into account communism and abortion.
Justin Kissel said:
12) Atheism arose due to a warped western Christian theology
From my experience, most of the atheists with whom I converse usually are reacting against protestant fundamentalism.
Justin Kissel said:
[Ahhh, I feel much better]

Other crazy things you've heard?
Well, I'm glad you feel better. That's what's ultimately important.
 

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Justin Kissel said:
Papist said:
Asteriktos said:
orthonorm said:
*, brilliant. You are getting them to come and say there own crazy things in earnest.
Yeah, but don't you kinda find it depressing? I mean, these aren't dumb people here, and yet...
And yet what?
Please review the thread, now that some time has passed. :)
Done.
 
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