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LivenotoneviL said:
...some Churches I've seen are just flat out iconoclastic and modernistic.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92UwIVFGVT4&t=5s
The video description makes it clear that this church is a university chapel that the ECOF bishop was using for the Mass.  This is no different from a Byzantine Liturgy being served in a school or university chapel.  We cannot expect a borrowed space to conform to the same expectations as if it were our own building built or renovated for our specific use. ECOF's churches are very beautiful indeed, and thoroughly Orthodox in their appearance.

And as for liturgical colors? Forget about it. I've seen a ROCOR Western Rite website talk about how green is kind of an inappropriate color, but I've seen priests wear green.
I don't see a problem with this.  We know there have always been different customs with regard to liturgical colours.  Green was all but unknown in the British tradition, only found very occasionally, and then quite late, shortly before the Reformation.  If a church is following the British customs, (which I happen to know are favoured by the likely author of the comment you saw), then yes, use of green would seem out of place.  Those following the Roman customs (perhaps Westrn Rite people who do not trace their history to the British Isles) would take a different approach.

This strikes me as no different than the difference between Greek and Slav practice where liturgical colours are concerned.  The Russians love their black vestments but I don't think I've ever seen a Greek or Antiochian priest wear them.

I think your overall point is valid - particularly in ROCOR - but some of your examples do not support this.
 

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Subdeacon Michael said:
LivenotoneviL said:
...some Churches I've seen are just flat out iconoclastic and modernistic.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92UwIVFGVT4&t=5s
The video description makes it clear that this church is a university chapel that the ECOF bishop was using for the Mass.  This is no different from a Byzantine Liturgy being served in a school or university chapel.  We cannot expect a borrowed space to conform to the same expectations as if it were our own building built or renovated for our specific use. ECOF's churches are very beautiful indeed, and thoroughly Orthodox in their appearance.

And as for liturgical colors? Forget about it. I've seen a ROCOR Western Rite website talk about how green is kind of an inappropriate color, but I've seen priests wear green.
I don't see a problem with this.  We know there have always been different customs with regard to liturgical colours.  Green was all but unknown in the British tradition, only found very occasionally, and then quite late, shortly before the Reformation.  If a church is following the British customs, (which I happen to know are favoured by the likely author of the comment you saw), then yes, use of green would seem out of place.  Those following the Roman customs (perhaps Westrn Rite people who do not trace their history to the British Isles) would take a different approach.

This strikes me as no different than the difference between Greek and Slav practice where liturgical colours are concerned.  The Russians love their black vestments but I don't think I've ever seen a Greek or Antiochian priest wear them.

I think your overall point is valid - particularly in ROCOR - but some of your examples do not support this.
While I make some valid points, my post had a bit of ignorant content - as I tend to be - so ignore that bit of it.

According to ROCOR's official website, the modern Roman colors are completely permitted to be used in the Western Rite Orthodox Church - the website I quoted comes from a Western Rite Church who wants colors "their way." Any color scheme that is Roman seems permitted; the only rule is that all black cannot be worn at an Orthodox altar.

Another point of ignorance was the fact that in Rome, Baptisms were never really that "liturgical." Even Tridentine Mass Baptisms were very simple in comparison.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUhAlWOPr74
 

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PoorFoolNicholas said:
Well one thing I can say abolut dinosaurs is that they are definitely a conspiracy, just like that dang spell checker...
http://newgeology.us/presentation48.html

https://principia-scientific.org/russians-nasa-discredit-fossil-fuel-theory-demise-of-junk-co2-science

Science is wrong, if you're old enough you'll remember hearing about how we'll be under water, extinction of polar bears, etc in the 1980s (even before that).




 

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Rubricnigel said:
PoorFoolNicholas said:
Well one thing I can say abolut dinosaurs is that they are definitely a conspiracy, just like that dang spell checker...
http://newgeology.us/presentation48.html

https://principia-scientific.org/russians-nasa-discredit-fossil-fuel-theory-demise-of-junk-co2-science

Science is wrong, if you're old enough you'll remember hearing about how we'll be under water, extinction of polar bears, etc in the 1980s (even before that).
But what do dinosaurs think about the Western Rite?
 

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Volnutt said:
Rubricnigel said:
PoorFoolNicholas said:
Well one thing I can say abolut dinosaurs is that they are definitely a conspiracy, just like that dang spell checker...
http://newgeology.us/presentation48.html

https://principia-scientific.org/russians-nasa-discredit-fossil-fuel-theory-demise-of-junk-co2-science

Science is wrong, if you're old enough you'll remember hearing about how we'll be under water, extinction of polar bears, etc in the 1980s (even before that).
But what do dinosaurs think about the Western Rite?
I think they like it:



(Kyrie Eleison for my soul; I hope God realizes that I'm not ridiculing the Holy Priesthood and Laity).
 
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