- Apr 7, 2009
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perhaps Darwin did not directly say anything about Paradise, but I was really just using his name to represent evolutionary science/scientists. Evolution certainly does have an impact on how we understand Paradise, and whether or not we think there ever really was a Paradise! if death is just part of the normal plan of things then we have to believe either: A. there was death in Paradise or B. there never really was a Paradise.Heorhij said:That's quite reasonable, I would not ask Darwin about Paradise, but did Darwin ever have a slaightest intention to tell someone about Paradise? I thought Darwin just made a brilliant observation that animal and plant populations evolve because the natural selection favors those genetically determined individuals in these populations who have a reproductive success under the ever-changing conditions of the environment. This observation serves as one of the principal postulates of the modern scientific theory of biological evolution...jckstraw72 said:im saying we should trust the Fathers to tell us about the works of God and Scripture - the Scriptures tell us about Paradise, so why would I ask Chucky Darwin about it when it belongs to the Church?Sleeper said:Are we supposed to place our trust in the Fathers when it comes to scientific understanding? I didn't realize that was a tenet of Orthodoxy.
i have encountered both these beliefs in discussions with TE's, so im not just making this up! so obviously ppl interpret Scripture/Paradise according to scientific observations of the modern world. This is what I don't understand at all - I don't understand the attraction of this method of interpretation. As I see it, the Fathers were holy, drew near to God, so who could I possibly get a better understanding from?
here is what St. Gregory the Theologian has to say about St. Basil's Hexameron:
Oration 43, Funeral Oration for St. Basil, Chapter 67
I will only say this of him. Whenever I handle his Hexaemeron, and take its words on my lips, I am brought into the presence of the Creator, and understand the words of creation, and admire the Creator more than before, using my teacher as my only means of sight.