- Apr 7, 2009
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different and new wouldnt be beneficial. Orthodoxy is the same and old.minasoliman said:Is there anything different and new you have to offer in this discussion?jckstraw72 said:God DID gives us a means to know that the Creation is less than 10,000 yrs old - the Scriptures and the Church! you just dont want to accept that ... although I can't think of what could be possibly more authoritative than that ....minasoliman said:I was about to reply to a question made much earlier that no one answered that I thought I can give a shot, but then I read this, and I thought that is would be a nice segway to what I want to say. D and E actually sound very similar to A and B in a functional sense. D mentions things are created in an orderly fashion and sometimes it means that some things are older than it seems. Well, that's A then, because since things are older than it seems, it goes without question that the orderly fashion God creates also brings deception and limitation to God. Is God so limited that He couldn't give us a means by which He can prove that creation is really less than 10,000 years old? D, just make God not only a deceiver, but actually quite non-omnipotent at all.Iconodule said:D) The Omphalos hypothesisOrtho_cat said:Basically, with regards to evolution, I have come to the conclusion that 1 of these options are possible:
A) God is tricking us (or "testing our faith")
B) Satan planted all the evidence for evolution (including manipulating our DNA)
C) Evolution is true, deal with it.
E) Romans 8:19-22. The creation was corrupted by man's Fall; our examination of the creation today is therefore not a trustworthy guide to the creation before the Fall.
F)"Therefore, every literal reading of nature leads finally to idolatry... This is the true picture of idol worshippers, of both the scientific and the unscientific, on one side, and the enlightened Christians on the other. The first cleave with their senses and spirits to the symbols of nature, and the others see with their senses the symbols, but with the spirit they read in the spirit, i.e., the spiritual message in the symbols." - St. Nikolai Velimirovich (emphasis mine)
I think D) is intriguing but E) and F) are most reasonable.