- May 24, 2006
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Non-Orthodox (and non-Christians) can post anywhere on the board that they want to, as long as they aren't breaking the rules.Since this is Free-For-All, does that mean non-Orthodox (and non-Christians) can post here?
Don't worry, I'm pretty blunt about these things...but you might want to watch out for those non-Chalcedonians preaching their heresy condemned by the fourth oecumenical synod. It'll probably take you a few months to figure out who's who since the details of the argument are so trivial...and it's always fun to watch someone accidently embrace a technically heretical view because of the argument in favour.88Devin12 said:What are you talking about Demetrios? Were you talking about me? I don't understand.
Ok ty Asteriktos!
It isn't that I hate non-Christians, I'm just not mature enough in Orthodox theology and thinking to guard myself against heresies. While I've been a Christian/Protestant all my life, and I can guard myself against non-Christian ideas, I have a hard time against heresies. Thus knowing who are and aren't Christians or Orthodox Christians is just simply a precaution I take so that I do not fall into heresy.
A deity is only needed to explain one thing, the concept of consistency, a deity that does that and only that is the most rational deity according to Occam's Razor. And the revelation of this force is through the unprovable existence of consistency itself.Keble said:Actually I would say just the opposite. A deity which does not reveal itself at all can be ignored quite readily in the name of Occam's Razor, since it isn't needed to explain anything, and certainly not a posited lack of miracles.
Seriously, you should be teaching freshman philosophy and debate the way you maneuver discussions! Maybe even some sophomore classes! Of course the human mind is a biochemical computer. I'm talking about Jesus and the heart and you start lecturing on biochemistry. You come here and act like we are rats in a cage. In reality, you are the one in the cage. You obviously post here because your heart has a big hole that your chemistry and mathematics can't fill. It's a clear lesson to us all that science, and math, and biology can't heal our hearts and soul. Every moment you engage in attacking God, attacking faith, throwing a tantrum at all us "christian" people, etc. the irony of why you even bother speaks loudly to your true condition and the condition of all of our hearts without Christ. So keep posting. Please. This place wasn't nearly as instructional when you were on hiatus!greekischristian said:The human mind is nothing but a biochemical computer, it can be changed by changing chemical balances, adjusting external stimuli, or even altering the neural pathways...but it certainly doesn't require some metaphysical presence. It's a physical machine changed by physical things. That is what you are, it may not be what you want to be, you may wish there was something beyond it, but that's just reality, it's good or bad, it's just true.
One day when GiC comes back to the Orthodox faith he will most likely be so full of zeal (and with his great power of debate) that he will be a formidable and persuasive advocate of Orthodoxy. I pray for that humbling day of conversion. But for now I must be content to read his posts and be happy that he is a part of the OC.net community.
I, too, am part of the GIC fan club. I very much appreciate his presence here on OC.net.Rosehip said:I'm happy too, that GiC is a part of OC.net. Furthermore, I hold him in awe for his mathematical skills and cheerfully accept my position in life as a (hopefully) tolerable subhuman being
I remember a poem:livefreeordie said:Seriously, you should be teaching freshman philosophy and debate the way you maneuver discussions! Maybe even some sophomore classes! Of course the human mind is a biochemical computer. I'm talking about Jesus and the heart and you start lecturing on biochemistry. You come here and act like we are rats in a cage. In reality, you are the one in the cage. You obviously post here because your heart has a big hole that your chemistry and mathematics can't fill. It's a clear lesson to us all that science, and math, and biology can't heal our hearts and soul. Every moment you engage in attacking God, attacking faith, throwing a tantrum at all us "christian" people, etc. the irony of why you even bother speaks loudly to your true condition and the condition of all of our hearts without Christ. So keep posting. Please. This place wasn't nearly as instructional when you were on hiatus!
Great poem! It reminds me of raising our 5 kids, my wife and I like to think we are the ones in charge but really the five little mice are the ones with all the power! Time stops and priorities bend to the will of a one-year old when one of our oldest says something like, "Dad, Maximus has poop in his diaper, change it!"ialmisry said:I remember a poem:
Every time I run that maze
and pull that string
a bell rings
and a man in white smock
asiduous and smart
comes out and give me cheese
how is it
that he has fallen into my power?
Unfortunately, when it comes to evolution, in my humble opinion, Fr Seraphim has no clue about what he is talking about.A Sombra said:Blessed Father Seraphim (Rose) on Evolution:
Of all the modern philosophies which Alexey Young, as a school teacher and later as a principal, was confronted with, perhaps the most powerful was that of evolution. He could see that most parents were ignorant of the very formidable scientific evidence against evolution, and also of the fact that evolution was being used (often quite deliberately) to undermine the very foundations of the Christian worldview. He decided to write an article for the sake of these parents, to make them more aware of what their children were being fed intellectually. Sending it to Fr. Seraphim for review, he received it back with a few suggestions and encouragement to print it in Nikodemos.
Some time thereafter, Fathers Herman and Seraphim were surprised to receive a letter expressing displeasure over the article, written by a priest of the Russian Church Abroad who was under the spiritual direction of Holy Transfiguration Monastery in Boston. According to the fathers of the Boston monastery, evolution was a "forbidden subject"; and it hurt this priest to see that Alexey was not agreeing with these authorities. Amazed to read in Nikodemos an article against such an established "fact" as evolution, the priest wrote that Alexey, as a convert who had retained his "Roman perspective," should not be allowed the "privilege of publication," and he stated that he was "withdrawing all support from Nikodemos."
While working on The Kingdom of Man and the Kingdom of God, Fr. Seraphim had made an investigation into the social, philosophical, and spiritual roots of evolutionism. Later, when attending the theological courses instituted by Archbishop John, he had studied the teaching of the Orthodox Church regarding the creation of the universe, as passed on through the Scriptures and the writings of the Holy Fathers.* Thus, having understood for a long time that evolutionism was antithetical to the Orthodox worldview, he concluded that the Orthodox critics of Alexey's article were "just not aware of the whole issue of evolution, whether in its scientific side or in its religious-theological implications." To Alexey he wrote: "Obviously your article has touched something very deep (frankly we are astonished that people so keen on ecclesiastical matters, ecumenism, etc., should seem never to have given much thought to such an important thing as evolution; apparently it is because it seems to be outside the Church sphere)."3
If memory serves me right, when GiC first joined OC.net he was a student at the Greek Orthodox Seminary along with several of our other forum members. So back then he wasn't non-Orthodox, I'd gather.Αριστοκλής said:Pay no attention to the troll behind the screen name. Had he originally stated he was a non-Orthodox when he joined and started that drivel, he would have been muted or banned by now.
Don't let this trouble you dear brother. There are billions of Orthodox Christians worldwide. There are maybe 200 people who belong to this forum that actively participate. Of them, I would imagine only 70 to 100 or so have taken the poll. Now, you can begin to get a clearer picture of the results. Remember also, you can (and will) find every opinion on the internet. Even amongst our brothers and sisters. But they are not our adversaries, Satan is. Our responsibility is, rather than become disheartened or upset with them, to pray for all Orthodox Christians.Byzantine2008 said:Sorry to go off conversation but I was very surprised at the opinion poll.
I thought more Orthodox Christians would have taken the Genesis account more literally.