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Deposed vs Excommunicated

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In regard to these canons:
http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf214.xvii.iv.html

Why is the punishment for clergy being deposed, but for a layman it is excommunication? I would have thought that if laymen are excommunicated, clergy should be too, as they committed a bigger sin by not only making a mistake, but also leading others astray by virtue of their high position.
 

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being deposed is worse than excommunication

Canon V.  (VI.)
Let not a bishop, presbyter, or deacon, put away his wife under pretence of religion; but if he put her away, let him be excommunicated; and if he persists, let him be deposed.

These canons are interesting thanks for sharing

 

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Ok, can someone explain why being deposed is worse than excommunication?
 

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maybe deposed means lose the priesthood forever but excommunicated means one can be received as a layman if he confesses and repents his sin although maybe one is excommunicated from the Holy Communion thus proving constant communion is not necessary to go to heaven for those who are excommunicated
How long is one excommunicated for normally? does excommunication mean one stops talking to you forever? the only one's to be excommunicated are those whom paul mentioned one named a brother who sins as a lifestyle and needs to know that God will judge him if he does not repent Jude says to save him with fear pulling him out of the fire otherwise excommunicating someone is an unforgivable sin for Jesus will say "I was a stranger and you did not take Me in"
 

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Canon XLV.
Let a bishop, presbyter, or deacon, who has only prayed with heretics, be excommunicated:  but if he has permitted them to perform any clerical office, let him be deposed.

excommunication must be non permanent then I think
 

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qawe said:
In regard to these canons:
http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf214.xvii.iv.html

Why is the punishment for clergy being deposed, but for a layman it is excommunication? I would have thought that if laymen are excommunicated, clergy should be too, as they committed a bigger sin by not only making a mistake, but also leading others astray by virtue of their high position.
It's because of the canonical principle that you can't punish twice for the same infraction. 
 

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Mor Ephrem said:
qawe said:
In regard to these canons:
http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf214.xvii.iv.html

Why is the punishment for clergy being deposed, but for a layman it is excommunication? I would have thought that if laymen are excommunicated, clergy should be too, as they committed a bigger sin by not only making a mistake, but also leading others astray by virtue of their high position.
It's because of the canonical principle that you can't punish twice for the same infraction. 
Mor is correct.

However, if a priest or member of the clergy is deposed, they must repent or they cannot receive Holy Communion. Unfortunately, when clergy are deposed, they can remain unrepentant. This lack of repentance will bar them from receiving the Holy Mysteries. In this sense, they have excommunicated themselves, so they need our prayers that they may repent.
 
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