"Documentary"/Hagiography of Josaphat Kuntsevych (in Ukrainian)

ialmisry

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4d6KwePY-ns

http://ugcc.tv/ua/media/54809.html

It is "interesting" how the UGCC has taken to him, a Belorussian canonized by the Latin Poles at the Vatican.
 

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ialmisry said:
It is "interesting" how the UGCC has taken to him,
You and I may not agree on very much, Ialmisry; but regarding this issue I must say that I myself have had trouble understanding the attitude of many Catholics toward him.
 

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Peter J said:
ialmisry said:
It is "interesting" how the UGCC has taken to him,
You and I may not agree on very much, Ialmisry; but regarding this issue I must say that I myself have had trouble understanding the attitude of many Catholics toward him.
What do you mean?
 

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Peter J said:
ialmisry said:
It is "interesting" how the UGCC has taken to him,
You and I may not agree on very much, Ialmisry; but regarding this issue I must say that I myself have had trouble understanding the attitude of many Catholics toward him.
Towards him or Bobola.
 

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Peter J said:
ialmisry said:
It is "interesting" how the UGCC has taken to him,
You and I may not agree on very much, Ialmisry; but regarding this issue I must say that I myself have had trouble understanding the attitude of many Catholics toward him.
I always find it helpful to disregard the propaganda of either side, so I dismiss Orthodox propoganda about Catholic saints and I dismiss Latin Catholic propaganda about Orthodox saints and when it comes to Eastern Catholic saints I dismiss both.
 

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Michał Kalina said:
Peter J said:
ialmisry said:
It is "interesting" how the UGCC has taken to him,
You and I may not agree on very much, Ialmisry; but regarding this issue I must say that I myself have had trouble understanding the attitude of many Catholics toward him.
Towards him or Bobola.
To quote Fredrick from The Pirates of Penzance ...

Who?
 

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Peter J said:
Michał Kalina said:
Peter J said:
ialmisry said:
It is "interesting" how the UGCC has taken to him,
You and I may not agree on very much, Ialmisry; but regarding this issue I must say that I myself have had trouble understanding the attitude of many Catholics toward him.
Towards him or Bobola.
To quote Fredrick from The Pirates of Penzance ...

Who?
Him: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Bobola
 

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Michał Kalina said:
Peter J said:
ialmisry said:
It is "interesting" how the UGCC has taken to him,
You and I may not agree on very much, Ialmisry; but regarding this issue I must say that I myself have had trouble understanding the attitude of many Catholics toward him.
Towards him or Bobola.
What atrocities did St Andrew Bobola supposedly commit?
 

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By fellow RCs he was described as short-tempered, violent, stubborn, prideful, arrogant, convinced of his own infallibility, and vindictive man. They even nicknamed his as "soul hunter".
 

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Michał Kalina said:
By fellow RCs he was described as short-tempered, violent, stubborn, prideful, arrogant, convinced of his own infallibility, and vindictive man. They even nicknamed his as "soul hunter".
Source?  And please don't tell me orthodoxengland.
 

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Deacon Lance said:
Michał Kalina said:
By fellow RCs he was described as short-tempered, violent, stubborn, prideful, arrogant, convinced of his own infallibility, and vindictive man. They even nicknamed his as "soul hunter".
Source?  And please don't tell me orthodoxengland.
Fr. Jan Poplatek - "Św. Andrzej Bobola. Łowca dusz" quoted

here: http://www.rp.pl/artykul/874219.html
and here: http://www.przegladprawoslawny.pl/articles.php?id_n=130&id=8
 

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Michał Kalina said:
Deacon Lance said:
Michał Kalina said:
By fellow RCs he was described as short-tempered, violent, stubborn, prideful, arrogant, convinced of his own infallibility, and vindictive man. They even nicknamed his as "soul hunter".
Source?  And please don't tell me orthodoxengland.
Fr. Jan Poplatek - "Św. Andrzej Bobola. Łowca dusz" quoted

here: http://www.rp.pl/artykul/874219.html
and here: http://www.przegladprawoslawny.pl/articles.php?id_n=130&id=8
Our Jesuit "iconographer" friend has produced this piece of schlock, featuring Sts Andrew Bobola and Peter the Aleut. All very chummy. I'd love to know who could venerate such an image in good conscience ....  ::) :laugh:

 

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LBK said:
Michał Kalina said:
Deacon Lance said:
Michał Kalina said:
By fellow RCs he was described as short-tempered, violent, stubborn, prideful, arrogant, convinced of his own infallibility, and vindictive man. They even nicknamed his as "soul hunter".
Source?  And please don't tell me orthodoxengland.
Fr. Jan Poplatek - "Św. Andrzej Bobola. Łowca dusz" quoted

here: http://www.rp.pl/artykul/874219.html
and here: http://www.przegladprawoslawny.pl/articles.php?id_n=130&id=8
Our Jesuit "iconographer" friend has produced this piece of schlock, featuring Sts Andrew Bobola and Peter the Aleut. All very chummy. I'd love to know who could venerate such an image in good conscience ....  ::) :laugh:

You mean without bursting out laughing? Well, as Roman Catholic iconography goes, people have been laughing at it for a thousand years.
 

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Michał Kalina said:
Deacon Lance said:
Michał Kalina said:
By fellow RCs he was described as short-tempered, violent, stubborn, prideful, arrogant, convinced of his own infallibility, and vindictive man. They even nicknamed his as "soul hunter".
Source?  And please don't tell me orthodoxengland.
Fr. Jan Poplatek - "Św. Andrzej Bobola. Łowca dusz" quoted

here: http://www.rp.pl/artykul/874219.html
and here: http://www.przegladprawoslawny.pl/articles.php?id_n=130&id=8
links don't work
 

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Michał Kalina said:
So poorly painted ^
Just found one with better resolution, just for you  ;) :

 

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LBK said:
Michał Kalina said:
Deacon Lance said:
Michał Kalina said:
By fellow RCs he was described as short-tempered, violent, stubborn, prideful, arrogant, convinced of his own infallibility, and vindictive man. They even nicknamed his as "soul hunter".
Source?  And please don't tell me orthodoxengland.
Fr. Jan Poplatek - "Św. Andrzej Bobola. Łowca dusz" quoted

here: http://www.rp.pl/artykul/874219.html
and here: http://www.przegladprawoslawny.pl/articles.php?id_n=130&id=8
Our Jesuit "iconographer" friend has produced this piece of schlock, featuring Sts Andrew Bobola and Peter the Aleut. All very chummy. I'd love to know who could venerate such an image in good conscience ....  ::) :laugh:

You mean other than Jesuits?
 
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ialmisry said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4d6KwePY-ns

http://ugcc.tv/ua/media/54809.html

It is "interesting" how the UGCC has taken to him, a Belorussian canonized by the Latin Poles at the Vatican.
Hmmm, did you by chance copy and paste the links I had posted on the Byzcath Forum on this very same topic? :)

You are mistaken about the "Latin Poles in the Vatican" canonizing him.  Only the Pope can canonize and there has only been one Latin Pole who's been Pope and he was not yet born to canonize St. Josaphat in 1867.
 
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