It must be an "ESL" issue. The whole "person" thing was not meant literally. Of course Fr Josiah is a real person. But there's a difference between someone whom you only know through words, Youtube videos, podcasts, etc., and someone you know through face-to-face conversation, sharing, cooperation, etc.Clemente said:What a ridiculous argument! Who here doesn't think he is a "real" person? Me? Who has made him out to be a hero? I haven't ever heard hours of lectures from a non-real person. I have already said in this thread that I disagree with him on certain matters, such as legalised SSM, but that I appreciate his perspective.Mor Ephrem said:[quote author=Clemente link
More credibility? No, not necessarily. My point was not that I have more credibility to criticise him, but rather that for me he is a real person first, not some ideological hero or enemy that I'm reacting to.Does your knowing him personally give you more credibility to critique him than someone who has listened to hours of his sermons?
I already addressed your point on credibility, explaining that that wasn't my intent.What about knowing him in real life now gives you more credibility to criticise him? Is there some personal foible? Are you peddling in innuendo?
I didn't take Fr Giryus' comment the way you did, so I'm not bound to have your reaction to it.It is easy to say you know him, but then you criticise him, "heart" prurient jokes about him (made by a priest, no less), and then hide behind your anonymous moniker. That is cowardice.