- Jan 2, 2010
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- PA, USA
As we can see here, not quite true. And in this particular instance, we are talking about two people of the same sex in a celibate cohabitation. They are not asking that any rite be devised to bless their relationship- someone even suggested reviving the adelphopoeisis rite and they explained that this did not interest them. But the Antiochian ruling indicated to them that even this- a same-sex celibate cohabitation, no special blessing requested- would not be condoned.ialmisry said:Iconodule said:The Church already practices this "utilitarianism" in the face of contraception, premarital sex, divorce, and confessionally mixed marriages. All of these involve sin or a significant departure from the ideal; all of them are routinely accommodated in our churches.Onesimus said:What one sees as "productive or practical" is an excercisein subjectivity in most of these discussions. It actually tends towards utilitarianism in practice for most who accept LGBTQ.
FinnJames was kind enough to share his own experience here. He is in a civil marriage with another man. He waited until the relationship became a celibate one before entering the church, and was accepted, while still remaining in his relationship with the full knowledge of the clergy. I should note here that FinnJames is not advocating celibacy as a uniform requirement of gay couples, but this is one way of approaching it.
Unfortunately in some circles even this is not enough. I would urge everyone to read this blog post written by a formerly Orthodox woman in a (celibate) relationship with another woman. The whole blog is actually well worth reading.The Orthodox Church can only condone and bless different sex unions in one degree-marriage.And, then on August 27 or 28, I honestly don’t remember which, I read the words “the Orthodox Church cannot and will not condone or bless ‘same-sex unions’ of any degree.” That last phrase if huge: of any degree. And no matter how much others have tried to tell me that the statement in question is not talking about people in my situation, I can’t believe that. The other shoe finally dropped, and I couldn’t see a way to continue communing in good conscience. The conscience is a tricky thing. It belongs to us, and only we know what will give us comfort.