stavros_388 said:
"Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves." Numbers 31:1-18
Are you sure you want to bring the Bible into the sphere of secular human rights?
Absolutely, but you must promise not to quote scripture out of context without reference, like you did here, first. Otherwise, it will be fruitless.
stavros_388 said:
Many of the arguments may look similar, depending on one's bias.
They are the same, regardless of any bias. Justifying sinful action and demonizing those who are against this.
stavros_388 said:
Many of the arguments for gay homosexual rights allowances also resemble those used in the abolishment of slavery and the fight for women's rights.
Except for the abolition of slavery wasn’t about sexual preference. And this, although used regularly, is a hideous example. The women’s rights movement, and its subscribers, know almost nothing of real history (EX: women voted in the 1700’s) and the truth of the matter is, women (and families) have suffered as a result more than people care to admit.
stavros_388 said:
There is a very obvious difference which I fail to understand how people overlook. Homosexuality involves consenting adults. The other (pedophilia) involves sex with minors. Minors are protected by law. Minors are deemed to be too underdeveloped to make informed decisions regarding sex, and rightfully so! Thankfully, our secular laws (unlike Mosaic laws) prevent children from being victimized. You can call this strictly secular, or even unbiblical, if you want to, but I much prefer this to laws that would make kids available to pedophiles.
What you fail to understand, and I could talk for days on this subject but I will not, is the end goal not the small steps, is what is envisioned by the proponents. Small steps, like former VP’s telling kids they have to educate their parents, making children sexualized in the public square (television) ever so slightly, little by little, giving children more and more authority over themselves, etc. Big picture stuff you will never see until to step back and look at the…big picture.
stavros_388 said:
What else needs to be explained?
Nothing for me, I know what I see. Besides, the
explanations excuses I have seen don’t stand up to the test of reality.
stavros_388 said:
The vast majority of homosexuals probably do not believe that they are being sinful whatsoever for seeking out companionship with another consenting adult in a way that feels natural to them.
And that would be our fault, yes? In the same way as not telling a person(s) else any other type of sin is wrong because it may hurt their feelings in some small way.
stavros_388 said:
I hear again and again here about how we need these "deviants" to know how we feel about them.
No, you are apparently hearing incorrectly. We are saying they need to know how God feels about what they are doing. Apparently you missed who I said was deviant. I invite you to go back and read it again.
stavros_388 said:
They THINK they know. What they know is propaganda for the most part and like so many others, they fall for it hook, line and sinker. Usually the result of liking what they hear and feeling better about what they are doing.
stavros_388 said:
Just look at the statistics of homosexual teen suicides.
Or just teens in general. Most of the problems are family related, not homosexual. Kids, unfortunately, are pretty dumb overall and don’t understand a lot (how to deal with life and the increasing pressures placed on them), which is why we see kids take their lives early over Facebook posts. Anything can be the trigger, there is a deeper seeded issue at fault here.
stavros_388 said:
Familial and societal rejection is nothing new to these people.
Or anyone else for that matter. For example, Christians. Clubs being shut down in schools, teachers being fired, students being threatened, all targeted without any other group being targeted. Holidays under attack, churches and Christian symbols being vandalized or destroyed by militant “victims” because they don’t approve of what Christians SAY. It goes on and on, but of course some people will not see this and understand it for what it is or where it all grows and gets its strength from. Christianity has a cancer which is eating it from the inside. It’s called “modernized” Christianity with its “modernized” views. Political correctness has found a home in the churches. Folks, in their attempt to appease and make friendly fail to see they set up their own persecution down the road. It’s all connected. Cause and effect type stuff, and the only people we have to blame for this predicament is ourselves. So yes, persecution is coming. When it arrives, please don't be surprised.