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Hello. It is my understanding that John used Gematria in the Book of Revelation to calculate the number of the beast as 666 (616???). Jesus's Gematria has also been calculated as 888 by many others as well. Many Orthodox Jews continue to use Gematria. They use it in the case of Exodus 14:19-21 and assert that God reveals one of his name's through it, 72 letters long, that equals the number 216 which also happens to be Plato's Perfect Number. What is the Orthodox Christian view on these Jewish Gematria practices?
 

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Rakovsky will know this
 

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666 is one possible Hebrew rendering of "Nero Caesar". "616" is a variation that relates to a different rendering. Also, Nebuchadnezzar can be summed up to either 665 or 667 depending on the source, with 666 being an average. I've also read, more than once, that 666 can be deduced from Antiochus Epiphanes, but I've never seen a demonstration.
 

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I've been trying to hit 777 at the casino for some time.
Seriously though, 666 is a reference to imperfection. 777 is perfection in this world and 888 is the ultimate perfection and is a number attributed to god. The numbers as I see them are degrees of spiritual knowledge.
 

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Batiushka was unusual somehow. He was often immersed in prayer and during these minutes I was afraid to move and kept thinking: "I am not worthy of being with Batiushka right now." It is difficult to describe that evening. I wrote, read aloud; during the reading, Batiushka often leaned against the back of the sofa and closed his eyes. Everything that I happened to read, everything seemed to apply either to me or turned out to be necessary for Father Adrian. A conversation started about the last times. Batiushka said, "Nilus, it is true, wrote his book long ago when there was as yet little talk about this, but still he got very carried away with his conclusions. Now concerning this, you tell your own Batiushka more often: 'Restrain your flights of enthusiasm.'

"Nilus included in his book the letter of a little girl in which she described her dream. She saw saints in Heaven who said that the end would come in 1924, but there still might be a respite. "Father John of Kronstadt speaks of 1930. We have always had a danger from the side of the civilian authority. These last three years we [Optina] have continued by some miracle, and now the danger is fomenting in our very own Russian Church. Why now free-thinking has begun in the Church, and that is dangerous! "You know that if you translate the apocalyptic number 666, you get 'free-thinker. "

Batiushka spoke more about the Apocalypse, but unfortunately, I did not understand everything. I was afraid to ask him to repeat because several times I was convinced that at such moments it was impossible to ask Batiushka to explain. He would immediately stop talking and turn everything into a joke.

I still remember the portentous words: "Those who stay faithful to the Orthodox Church, no matter where they may be scattered, the Lord will gather them together like the apostles were gathered at the Dormition of the Mother of God."
Reminiscences: Recollections About Elder Nektary of Optina by Matushka Eugenia Rimarenko
 

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Gematria simply means that each Hebrew letter has an equivalent number. Gematria is commonly used to turn letters into numbers. It also is used to find a "hidden" word within a word that gives a deeper or esoteric explanation of a word (or sentence). Lingerie or could be used in reverse. If a number is written, wrote out the number in Hebrew letters and a word will appear. It is definitely a higher esoteric understanding of the Divine Word.
 
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