There are no aborted fetus stem cells in any vaccine. The stem cell lines obtained from abortions half a century ago are used in the testing of many pharmaceuticals. The notion of ‘taint’ is magical thinking.
That is patently untrue, Johnson & Johnson uses cloned cell lines from an aborted baby in the production of it's inoculation.
You can look at this for a start. It does mention how it was compiled.
www.patheos.com
Great link, Opus118! Thanks for posting it! Been looking for something like this for some time.You can look at this for a start. It does mention how it was compiled.
If Any Drug Tested on HEK-293 Is Immoral, Goodbye Modern Medicine
Some have have rejected every COVID vaccine tested on fetal cell lines like HEK-293. But if this is followed, reject all medicine tested this way.
To my knowledge the mRNA vaccines were developed completely synthetically not even using actual virus bodies. Needless to say there is no ’fetus tissue’ in a vaccine that doesn’t even contain actual virus material but only proteins synthesized according to data derived from a map of the virus. Amy involvement of human cell lines is in testing the derived serum.
Ancient Faith Radio had a special podcast regarding the vaccines. The guest with the Father is a doctor, who is Orthodox. He mentioned Tylenol and Vitamin D during the conversation.
I heard it too. I called the manufacturer of my Vit D supplement and they do not use fetal cell lines for their product.
Not really familiar with Fr. Heers. What is this "obscurantism flogged by..." him that you refer to?
Are "they" holding back evidence? Probably.
Im sure they know, but its politically incorrect to publish it and I kinda agree with that decision.
Look him up on YouTube. But heck, you might be swayed by his cocksureness and dire certainty. I’m not. I knew him as a layman and I’m not impressed by anything he says, even when I agree.
It is totally in vitro using highly purified components unlike most vaccines. I am only commenting because it reminds me of a joke when I was a child: Cleanliness is next to Godliness and both are next to Impossible. These vaccines approach what was next to impossible.
What you wrote here is completely inaccurate. mRNA vaccines do not ‘edit your child’s DNA’. The horror story is about the millions of people who will not be getting vaccinated, either out of personal stubbornness or ineffectual distribution of vaccines, and the continued spread and mutation of the novel virus among populations worldwide. I’m disgusted to read the bizarre concatenation of misinformation you’ve posted, especially as you foist it with an air of superior credibility, as far as to call vaccinated people no longer fully human. This is dangerous ideological speech that ought to be corrected.
www.nationalgeographic.com
This is utter antiscientific twaddle with no factual basis. You are still calling me posthuman participating in elaborating an argument for classifying me and my family as less than human. That’s called ‘Demomization’ and is a trope of racists and fascists everywhere in the last century and more. You need to say less on the subject, not more. Your paranoia regarding the essential evil of medicine in the modern era is also another tell of your orientation toward the fantastic and rejection of convention. I’m sure you claim to be ‘patristically based’ in these prejudices.
paranoid? Didn’t Pfizer just recall Chantix that’s been out for 16 years because it causes cancer? How about the pharmaceutical industry pushing opioids that killed a huge portion of my generation including one of my best friends? Our government completely botched the eighth epidemic in the 80s and early 90s? That’s just off the top of my head. If you want to trust billion dollar pharmaceutical companies and that’s on you, but don’t try to push your propaganda on us.
You are writing paranoid lies with the false assumption that there is substance behind ‘shedding spike proteins’ and ‘altered DNA’.
Do you have anything of substance to say save for bolshevik-style stigmatizing, psychologizing and gaslighting your opponents?
Exactly, you’re using buzz words like “misinformation”, “conspiracy theories” and “alternative facts” to try and belittle me. They’re ad hominem attacks. Noah was a conspiracy theorist until it started to rain.
So now you typify my opposition to your paranoia as a continuation of a historical program to persecute and exterminate Christians. Been reading heavily into Rod Dreher lately? Because vaccines are the mark of the beast? Because the war my father fought to defeat fascism in Europe was antiChristian? The sloppiness of your ‘argumentation’ is appallingly fascistic.
Boomer talk
Wrong generation, groyper. I was born late, and though your tack is insultingly bigoted and unchristian in its echo of the Irishman’s Bolshevism charge, as though to be antifascist puts a person in the ranks of the NKVD, I won’t stoop to your level.
Oh, I very well know what "antifascism" means coming from people like you, given it was one of the founding principles of the DDR tyranny over here. If you seriously think your dad fought for anything close to what is part of our current political agenda he will damn you from his grave.
Good thing that no DNA gets edited in the use of mRNA vaccines. The vaccine components don't even get anywhere close to where one's DNA is.
A religious exemption would imply vaccination is incompatible with our faith, which it is not. A medical exemption may be valid (there are plenty of people who cannot be vaccinated, so the rest of us need to protect them too), or not, so questions will be asked.
I disagree, I think it’s very incompatible. But obviously that is a subjective opinion.
No. It instructs your body's cells to recognise that spike protein when it appears attached to the real virus (which can make you ill) instead of on its own as a vaccine component (which can't).
Also an irrelevant one. You're not part of the hierarchy responsible for making Church decisions.
None of the vaccines currently used claims to completely shield you from infection. They aim to decrease the chances of infection and transmission, and reduce the severity of disease, all of which they are doing pretty well.
www.bmj.com