Hagia Sophia Vote

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Hi all,today a Greek Christian orthodox site has this link and wants our vote so Hagia Sophia to open again as an Orthodox Church.In case anyone wants to vote so the orthodoxs can have as many signatures as possible please do.You write you email,the site is in Greek I have translated Όνομα=Name/surname,Χώρα=Country,Τ.Κ=Postal code,Πόλη=town.The countries are listed in Greek if you need help to find your country let me know.https://secure.avaaz.org/el/petition/Se_kathe_politi_toy_kosmoy_Ypograpste_oste_i_AGIA_SOFIA_na_leitoyrgisei_xana_os_Orthodoxos_Naos/
 

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^If we do there are going to be moslems who want to vote to make it a mosque again.  We probably better leave it as a museum.
 

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Gamliel said:
^If we do there are going to be moslems who want to vote to make it a mosque again.  We probably better leave it as a museum.
we have democracy and everyone can express himself.I m not trying to persuade anyone to vote that's why I said 'in case anyone wants to vote' ,I voted but one can do as he wishes.Sorry if I offended you
 

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Seekingtrue said:
Gamliel said:
^If we do there are going to be moslems who want to vote to make it a mosque again.  We probably better leave it as a museum.
we have democracy and everyone can express himself.I m not trying to persuade anyone to vote that's why I said 'in case anyone wants to vote' ,I voted but one can do as he wishes.Sorry if I offended you
Who has a democracy? Turkey?
 

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Bryan Paul said:
Seekingtrue said:
Gamliel said:
^If we do there are going to be moslems who want to vote to make it a mosque again.  We probably better leave it as a museum.
we have democracy and everyone can express himself.I m not trying to persuade anyone to vote that's why I said 'in case anyone wants to vote' ,I voted but one can do as he wishes.Sorry if I offended you
Who has a democracy? Turkey?
now that you mention it :-X not even emoticons have democracy haha
 

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Seekingtrue said:
Bryan Paul said:
Seekingtrue said:
Gamliel said:
^If we do there are going to be moslems who want to vote to make it a mosque again.  We probably better leave it as a museum.
we have democracy and everyone can express himself.I m not trying to persuade anyone to vote that's why I said 'in case anyone wants to vote' ,I voted but one can do as he wishes.Sorry if I offended you
Who has a democracy? Turkey?
now that you mention it :-X not even emoticons have democracy haha
Bryan I agree Turkey and democracy are far apart..my problem is that from 6june until 5july the Hagia Sophia has turn to mosque.I find it disrespectful.
 

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Yes, an online poll will sure change the Turks' minds.
 

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Seekingtrue said:
hecma925 said:
Yes, an online poll will sure change the Turks' minds.
haha true an online poll no.But faith move mountains?
There is no faith involved concerning online polls. 
 

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Best to leave as is.
The Turks do all the maintenance and repairs as a museum, very expensive for the Phanar to afford
Making noises about returning it to Christians will only force Muslims hand in remaking it into a Mosque again.
 

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hecma925 said:
Seekingtrue said:
hecma925 said:
Yes, an online poll will sure change the Turks' minds.
haha true an online poll no.But faith move mountains?
There is no faith involved concerning online polls.
leave the online poll I was referring to faith in general.I m Orthodox I want Hagia Sophia as an Orthodox Church I put my trust in God and I have faith that no matter what in time Hagia Sophia will be an Orthodox Church.
 

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leave the online poll I was referring to faith in general.I m Orthodox I want Hagia Sophia as an Orthodox Church I put my trust in God and I have faith that no matter what in time Hagia Sophia will be an Orthodox Church.
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Surely, if God had wanted the Aya Sofia to remain an Orthodox Church, She would not have allowed the Catholic Venetians and Franks to breach the sea walls during the Fourth Crusade. After all, isn't the Byzantine High Admiral, Loukas Notaras attributed with the proverb, ‘Better the Turkish Turban than the Papal Tiara’?
 

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This won't happen absent a change of sovereignty in Constantinople, but I disagree that militating for it will prompt the Turks to retaliate; that's coming anyway. The Turkish government is already funding the construction of a mosque in the Netherlands called Hagia Sophia, ostensibly to desensitize Westerners to the idea of the  true Hagia Sophia being reconverted into a mosque. Now that Erdogan has had his Reichstag fire moment by orchestrating a false coup to consolidate power, expect Turkey to ramp up Islamization efforts, with the Hagia Sophia being the symbolic crown jewel of a Turkish caliphate.

I'm cautiously optimistic that rapprochement between Turkey and Russia will fail, and that we'll see a Russian army marching on Constantinople in my lifetime, but wouldn't hold my breath...
 

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Heck, I would not mind seeing that hypothetical march by a Russian Army myself...
 
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