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As much as I appreciate the help and the resources here, I feel like the more I engage in theological discussion, being the Neophyte that I am, the more I realize how much I don't even understand, and I want to apologize for all the errors I've made and ignorance that I have portrayed. With my unholy and disgusting hands, I have tried to grasp something holy, and I may be condemned for it - how can I even tackle something like the theology of Orthodoxy, when I am but a schismatic with no theological training?

Moreover, this board is an idol in my life that I need to pluck out and replace it with a greater sense of reading the Bible, studying the Church Fathers, and praying. I thank everyone for putting up with me, despite how evil and selfish I can be, and I could seriously use your prayers. This isn't me trying to put on some "holier than thou art" persona, I seriously need your prayers. As you can tell from my posts, which go from atheism and blasphemy to "defending Orthodoxy," there are some serious spiritual problems in my life.

It's just that this whole journey is frustrating and annoying, and it doesn't help me that I'm Sacramentless, so I'm in a very stupid situation, a situation where my whole being is dominated by sin.

I don't know. Pray for me. I at least want a better chance of getting into Heaven by being in the Correct Church.

I think for now, I'm gonna follow Mor's advice and probably stick with Eastern Orthodoxy for now - although I will still attend a Coptic Liturgy and talk with a priest there. However, if God truly wants me to become Oriental at some point, I hope that He makes it clear to me that it's the True Church.

I think Mor was wise when he said that I should probably become Eastern Orthodox first and deal with the Oriental controversy later - and it's clear why.

I'm sorry to all those whom I've offended, I'm sorry to all those whom I've heart. I'm sorry to God, and I'm sorry for being a sophist.

So long, and thanks for all the fish.
 

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LivenotoneviL said:
As much as I appreciate the help and the resources here, I feel like the more I engage in theological discussion, being the Neophyte that I am, the more I realize how much I don't even understand, and I want to apologize for all the errors I've made and ignorance that I have portrayed. With my unholy and disgusting hands, I have tried to grasp something holy, and I may be condemned for it - how can I even tackle something like the theology of Orthodoxy, when I am but a schismatic with no theological training?

Moreover, this board is an idol in my life that I need to pluck out and replace it with a greater sense of reading the Bible, studying the Church Fathers, and praying. I thank everyone for putting up with me, despite how evil and selfish I can be, and I could seriously use your prayers. This isn't me trying to put on some "holier than thou art" persona, I seriously need your prayers. As you can tell from my posts, which go from atheism and blasphemy to "defending Orthodoxy," there are some serious spiritual problems in my life.

It's just that this whole journey is frustrating and annoying, and it doesn't help me that I'm Sacramentless, so I'm in a very stupid situation, a situation where my whole being is dominated by sin.

I don't know. Pray for me. I at least want a better chance of getting into Heaven by being in the Correct Church.

I think for now, I'm gonna follow Mor's advice and probably stick with Eastern Orthodoxy for now - although I will still attend a Coptic Liturgy and talk with a priest there. However, if God truly wants me to become Oriental at some point, I hope that He makes it clear to me that it's the True Church.

I think Mor was wise when he said that I should probably become Eastern Orthodox first and deal with the Oriental controversy later - and it's clear why.

I'm sorry to all those whom I've offended, I'm sorry to all those whom I've heart. I'm sorry to God, and I'm sorry for being a sophist.

So long, and thanks for all the fish.
Yes, follow Mor's advice, and do whatever you need to do to become Eastern Orthodox at the parish you mentioned, and as soon as you can. Once you start having Holy Communion, Confession, (not to mention your Baptism), everything else will fall in to place. I think you are making the right decision to get off this board, it seems to affect you too much.

God bless.
 

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Bye you will be missed!
 

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Go with God.
 

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Well darn ~ I don't like you taking off ~ even for a while ~ I could see who you were in your writing ~ you give as much as you received ```

I need another cup O coffee ~ but it will not make it lighter to think you'll be talking here less ~ I want to say " Don't go " but I know you'll be here ~ just less for a while ```

Maybe I'll see you around brother ```

God Love and be with you ```


seth
 

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Prayers for you and all on this journey we endeavor to undertake.
 

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LivenotoneviL said:
I at least want a better chance of getting into Heaven by being in the Correct Church.
You will never be saved this way. The Church was made for man, not man for the Church.

Put your trust in Christ.

He has given us the Church, through which the Sacraments serve as conduits of grace. But they are not the only conduits of grace. If you fall down, get up again and keep running at the gates of Heaven. Charge as hard as you can, even -- especially -- when you stumble. Do this until you get there, and at the last moment you will find you have fallen through an open door and into the full presence of God. And if you find yourself in the ditch, look for Christ to pull you out. All you have to do is ask.
 

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NJC said:
Yes, follow Mor's advice, and do whatever you need to do to become Eastern Orthodox at the parish you mentioned, and as soon as you can. Once you start having Holy Communion, Confession, (not to mention your Baptism), everything else will fall in to place. I think you are making the right decision to get off this board, it seems to affect you too much.

God bless.
Absolutely.

Right now you are attempting to fight spiritual battles naked and unarmed.
 

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I think you were doing pretty good. There are people out there that dont even come close to how far you have come. Do what you feel will benefit you right now. Ultimately its gods grace that gives us true theological knowledge.  Until he intervenes. Everything is cloudy.
 

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Based on some of the things you have posted on the board, I think you and I have the same tendency to over think these things and get yourself into panic mode where you are obsessed with figuring out how to get to heaven. I don't know if you are from a Protestant background, but I can see how being brought up, let's say Baptist, can do this to your head. The picture of God handed to you was probably way off target and needs time to heal.

Anyway, this podcast by Fr. Hopko hits the nail on the head. I would strongly encourage you to listen. He starts discussing these things around the 24-minute mark. Whatever your opinion of Fr. Hopko, I think that this is a good antidote to this way of thinking.

http://www.ancientfaith.com/podcasts/namesofjesus/jesus_the_savior
 
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