- Aug 31, 2010
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- Diocese of Florida
For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment on himself. That is why many of you are weak and ill, and some have died.You believe the Eucharist transmits disease.
I'll let Jesus know.The Eucharist can transmit - or even cause- disease.
Gospel of John, chapter 653 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.
58 This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.
59 These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.
60 Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?
I believe you and I are on the same page for the most part. But you said specifically: "You believe the Eucharist transmits disease" as if it couldn't.I'll let Jesus know.
Gospel of John, chapter 6
The Eucharist can't transmit disease without God consenting to it individually. So the so-called medical judgement on the way communion is distributed is in reality a spiritual one. A spiritual one that implies God will let people become sick for not following the measures of anti-human and anti-christian totalitarianism that locks people into their homes.I believe you and I are on the same page for the most part. But you said specifically: "You believe the Eucharist transmits disease" as if it couldn't.
If it was that transmissible I think everyone would already have it. I don't believe the scientists even know how its transmitted exactly. I have witnessed personally, a person in a gathering I was in get it and nobody else was infected. Just one person and everyone was tested. Its a weird disease and the mechanism for transmission seems mysterious. Almost tactical in nature.If someone spreads Covid-19 in Church, it will be a long time before the person gets into the Eucharist line. Someone only has to show up and cough, sneeze, or breathe.
I feel like you’re missing your own nuance.I believe you and I are on the same page for the most part. But you said specifically: "You believe the Eucharist transmits disease" as if it couldn't.
It can. It does. It is not a communication of exterior factors. The disease the Eucharist transmits isn't one of viruses or bacteria. But when we approach it in the wrong state it is deadly- a priest doesn't guard the Eucharist as if it were a pearl cast before swine, he guards us from approaching a consuming fire unworthily.
I'm not saying that Covid season is the time to return to purification laws and handwashing and wiping the outside of the cup. I am saying that this period is a good reminder to "look after yourself". The Eucharist is life eternal. But the Eucharist is a consuming fire. "I'll let Jesus know" but Jesus already let St Paul know. We (I) need to be wary, not because a microorganism exists, but because we (I) all too often approach the Cup as if the mere taking were enough. It's not "with masks and hand sanitizer and love of social distancing draw near" but "with fear and faith and love of God draw near". If we aren't following the latter, then yes: the Eucharist transmits disease.
I think you misunderstood. These biblical words are spiritual in nature. if one isn't spirituality ready it receive the eucharist, it can become damming to there soul.maybe it's problematic to say "the Eucharist transmits disease", because it feels like you're saying that disease stems out from the Eucharist itself, and that the Eucharist itself is the one causing disease, and that we should all agree it's false, however i see no reason why a particle of disease from outside sources wouldn't be able to impregnate on the material of the Eucharist and infect another person through it. My Priest beautifily described the Eucharist as a "burning flame" and therefore it would burn any harmful particle that touches it, but i don't know, i've heard all sorts of arguments and i just can't buy it, maybe i'm weak of Faith but i really have a problem with claims like these that become almost scientific, it feels like it can be easily proven false by observable methods, and i don't like that.
moreover i want to believe anyone that knows to have been tested positive for Covid, would at least want to be the last in line. Right?