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Is support of abortion is rampant in Orthodox christians like the Catholics?

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I think it’s difficult to fight for any human right if you don’t defend the right to life. If the unborn aren’t human than what is?
 

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I think it’s difficult to fight for any human right if you don’t defend the right to life. If the unborn aren’t human than what is?
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You have been placed on post moderation for adding political commentary to the public board. See green text below.
Says the reader of hearts. Oh great German elder, what else do you see?
I’m not quite sure what any of that is supposed to mean.

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I’m not quite sure what any of that is supposed to mean.
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So you are not only a long-distance reader of hearts you are also in charge of policing people‘s political views. I see that here plainly. You need to take care of,yourself before you sort everyone else out.

Mind your own business, scold. You don’t get to say who can be or not be Orthodox.

Watch yourself, Fulk Nera. You have already been warned for an ad hominem attack on a member earlier. Pravoslavbob.
 
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So you are not only a long-distance reader of hearts you are also in charge of policing people‘s political views. I see that here plainly. You need to take care of,yourself before you sort everyone else out.

Mind your own business, scold. You don’t get to say who can be or not be Orthodox.
If you give advice on the prayer form repeatedly you can get banned easier than this caustic way, holding your integrity intact!
 

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Warned for thinly-veiled political attack against another member as well as using an inappropriate acronym on the public board.
So you are not only a long-distance reader of hearts you are also in charge of policing people‘s political views. I see that here plainly. You need to take care of,yourself before you sort everyone else out.

Mind your own business, scold. You don’t get to say who can be or not be Orthodox.
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Personally I am against abortion but I am with the law that give the right of abortion.
We should always see what is the better for the society and the person and the new born child.
I think that us the Christian we should not fight against the right of abortion we should try just to try to make the world a better place. Or we will be like the lawyers

And he said, “Woe to you lawyers also! For you load people with burdens hard to bear, and you yourselves do not touch the burdens with one of your fingers.
 

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We should always see what is the better for the society and the person and the new born child.
Were it anything else, I might agree, but on abortion, how can death ever be the better option for a child yet to be born?
 

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Were it anything else, I might agree, but on abortion, how can death ever be the better option for a child yet to be born?
First a women who want to do abortion it will make it even if the abortion is illegal so it is better for her to practice legal abortion and the statistics in country where abortion is illegal proof this.
Now for the question of the child that it is not yet born we know that an unwanted child can live a suffering live and we can see easily without doing some idealism that a new born child will live in the same situation of his parents and his social environment so we can predict how his life will be.
For an example a poor family that has already a child and they can barely able to pay for this child to has a good living so having another child will be bad for the whole family including the new child. That is true even in a very good welfare state like France so how the situation will be in a state that doesn't have a welfare system.
 

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First a women who want to do abortion it will make it even if the abortion is illegal so it is better for her to practice legal abortion and the statistics in country where abortion is illegal proof this.
Now for the question of the child that it is not yet born we know that an unwanted child can live a suffering live and we can see easily without doing some idealism that a new born child will live in the same situation of his parents and his social environment so we can predict how his life will be.
For an example a poor family that has already a child and they can barely able to pay for this child to has a good living so having another child will be bad for the whole family including the new child. That is true even in a very good welfare state like France so how the situation will be in a state that doesn't have a welfare system.
Nope. So much nope.
 

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Because you basically just said it's ok to kill someone at will if it is deemed necessary. Said all perpetrators of genocide ever.
 

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Because you basically just said it's ok to kill someone at will if it is deemed necessary. Said all perpetrators of genocide ever.
No here the question is different because it is a moral question so you consider an unborn child a person other will not consider it a person. So we can accuse in the same logic people who are against the right of abortion that they just like to see people suffering.
 

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No here the question is different because it is a moral question so you consider an unborn child a person other will not consider it a person. So we can accuse in the same logic people who are against the right of abortion that they just like to see people suffering.
People have been considering other people subhuman for millennia, why would that suddenly be limited to babies in the womb? Saying "they might suffer too much otherwise" is just giving a justification for the violence. You're operating on the assumption that a person's perception can define reality. They don't consider the baby a person, therefore it isn't. They don't think the baby will have a good enough life, so it's ok to kill it. That's messed up. That logic can indeed be expanded to any person for any reason. That third world country is too poor, those people are too ignorant, etc.

Also: You can help a struggling family. You can't help a corpse, small or big.
 
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