- Dec 4, 2002
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- East Coast, USA
- Orthodox Christian
- Oriental Orthodox Church
This is an excellent point. I think a pertinent question might be, what earthly governments have we seen that have been informed by a truly Orthodox ethos? Fr. Demetrios Constantelos’ books on the concept of Byzantine Philanthropia have much to say in this regard.rakovsky said:Marx, Thomas Jefferson, and the US founding fathers did not believe Christ was God's son. The founding fathers were Masons. I, as someone who accepts political democracy and economic Marxism, have no compulsion to accept their religious beliefs.
Amen.rakovsky said:I am glad that the Church provides us a means of fellowship and unity that transcends politics.
Good examples. I have friends from Angola and Namibia who have told me that they are grateful the Marxists intervened there to help them drive out the reprehensible South African invaders.rakovsky said:I think we can talk about Sweden, Gorbachev's Russia, post-war Yugoslavia, to show that a society seeking Marxism can be humanitarian.sainthieu said:If anything, I should think it exemplified bloody totalitarianism. Er, you want to give me an example of this in the real world--I mean the world outside the fantasies in your mind?
Nonetheless... St. Thomas More's "Utopia" meant "a Good Place" and "No Place". I am happy dreaming about communal societies as a magical future, like ancient greek ideas about democracy, or my hopes for future resurrection- if not mine, then yours.