+100CoptoGeek said:WOW, that was fantastic!bogdan said:—Paraphrase of Father Seraphim Rose and Elder Ambrose of Optina.[/i]
+100CoptoGeek said:WOW, that was fantastic!bogdan said:—Paraphrase of Father Seraphim Rose and Elder Ambrose of Optina.[/i]
What?orthonorm said:Which is pretty much the only terms (or at least necessary ones) Christianity offers for salvation, so what is your point?Nephi said:What I've been exposed to so far seems largely at odds with traditional Christianity in all forms, as it almost describes salvation in purely material terms
Wow. Some say I am cryptic, but this certainly can't be the case here.Nephi said:What?orthonorm said:Which is pretty much the only terms (or at least necessary ones) Christianity offers for salvation, so what is your point?Nephi said:What I've been exposed to so far seems largely at odds with traditional Christianity in all forms, as it almost describes salvation in purely material terms
What?orthonorm said:Wow. Some say I am cryptic, but this certainly can't be the case here.
So let me put it in bullet points:
* Salvation
* In
* Christianity
* Is
* Material
* So
* Your
* Post
* Makes
* No
* Sense
Since you don't have a grasp of basic orthodox Christian thought, I am not sure we can go further. Others here can give you the label for the various schools of Christianity labeled by Orthodox as heresies which deny the materiality of nearly everything or at least seek to make it a reification for evil. You might find more understandable and sympathetic statements there.Nephi said:What?orthonorm said:Wow. Some say I am cryptic, but this certainly can't be the case here.
So let me put it in bullet points:
* Salvation
* In
* Christianity
* Is
* Material
* So
* Your
* Post
* Makes
* No
* Sense
Meh. Ancient Eastern Biedermeierism.Romaios said:+100CoptoGeek said:WOW, that was fantastic!bogdan said:—Paraphrase of Father Seraphim Rose and Elder Ambrose of Optina.[/i]
But wait, what?orthonorm said:Since you don't have a grasp of basic orthodox Christian thought, I am not sure we can go further. Others here can give you the label for the various schools of Christianity labeled by Orthodox as heresies which deny the materiality of nearly everything or at least seek to make it a reification for evil. You might find more understandable and sympathetic statements there.Nephi said:What?
That perfectly summarizes father Rose. Or as Bunuel puts it " if everybody took shalt hour everyday to pray to St. Joseph peace and quiet will prevail."orthonorm said:Meh. Ancient Eastern Biedermeierism.Romaios said:+100CoptoGeek said:WOW, that was fantastic!bogdan said:—Paraphrase of Father Seraphim Rose and Elder Ambrose of Optina.[/i]
What Modern Western -ism do you prefer?orthonorm said:Meh. Ancient Eastern Biedermeierism.Romaios said:+100CoptoGeek said:WOW, that was fantastic!bogdan said:—Paraphrase of Father Seraphim Rose and Elder Ambrose of Optina.[/i]
Can anyone please give me an example of any time Orthodoxy refers to any of its teachings as a specific theology?rakovsky said:Their main mistake is calling it a "theology". If they just said they had a teaching about freeing people from suffering in society and then used traditional phrases and examples it would sound fine.
Then they talk about it in relation to Feminist "theology" and you can really get driven bonkers by it.
How about if I said in a class lecture that there is an icon "theology" and that this is important in relation to idol "theology"? And then talk about it using western art phrases and depictions. A random Protestant would probably think "I don't know what icon theology is, but it seems at odds with what I believe".
To give one more analogy, western scholars sometimes talk about Replacement "Theology", claiming it is in the Church fathers. A natural reaction by an Orthodox person who hears descriptions of it couched in the western terminology may be quick to say that whatever it is, it must be bad. Unfortunately I am afraid that alot of these problems will continue to come up in alot of areas.
Avdima said:Liberation Theology is doomed to fail in completeness without a spiritual backing. But at the same time I agree with the oppressed of the world rising/standing up to the powers that be and taking back what is rightfuly theirs. The world today could look a lot like "Star Trek socialism" if we would quit being selfish and shared with our brothers not only wealth but knowledge, I doubt I will see it but I pray for the day noone goes without outside of some mental issues or the mark of the beast.
Antonious Nikolas said:the uniquely Roman Catholic phenomenon of "Liberation Theology".
Good to know. I hope he has repented from his previous ideologies.Michał Kalina said:Fr. Giron is not a bishop.
And everyone knows Orthodox Church is only for libertarians. Everyone else - out.
Just like the racially based hierarchies associated with Western imperialism and colonialism and defended by the intellectually dishonest OP. Ironic.Fabio Leite said:It is demonic from its very root to its very end.
What about the group absorbed by the Syriac Orthodox Church in the same area? Any information on them? How is that coming along?Fabio Leite said:Not any longer. Since the 500 thousand Guatemalans joined the Greek Church, Constantinople "gained" a veritable Trojan Horse. These groups were organized by a radical Latina-American leftist (now Orthodox bishop) and my guess is that they will try to spread some equivalent of Liberation Theology into the Latin American Orthodox Church, duely customized of course. Let's wait and see.
Michał Kalina said:This makes sense NOT.
Michał Kalina said:Whatever.
Cool! Sorry for the mix-up. But your awesome use of antiquated slang still stands! Take it as a compliment, man!Michał Kalina said:I am sorry but I was referring to Fabio not you.
Awesome post on your part. Dying @ Uncle Joey. Now that Shiny has been kicked out, someone has to amuse me. Thanks.Antonious Nikolas said:Cool! Sorry for the mix-up. But your awesome use of antiquated slang still stands! Take it as a compliment, man!Michał Kalina said:I am sorry but I was referring to Fabio not you.![]()
Welcome to Europe. Generations of European teenagers have learnt English by watching bad American tv-series. I still have no clue how regular English-speaking people actually talk like.Antonious Nikolas said:Cool! Sorry for the mix-up. But your awesome use of antiquated slang still stands! Take it as a compliment, man!Michał Kalina said:I am sorry but I was referring to Fabio not you.![]()
Based on what I've seen of your posts, you'll also get my obscure 90s East Coast hip hop references.orthonorm said:Awesome post on your part. Dying @ Uncle Joey. Now that Shiny has been kicked out, someone has to amuse me. Thanks.
And I thought my cousins in the Dirty South were behind the times!Alpo said:Welcome to Europe.
What, Zach Morris and Tony Micelli aren't "regular people" to you, Alpo?Alpo said:Generations of European teenagers have learnt English by watching bad American tv-series. I still have no clue how regular English-speaking people actually talk like.
[duckie]touche[/duckie]Alpo said:Whatever. :angel: