But observe how Peter does everything with the common consent; nothing imperiously." St. John Chrysostom, Homily III on Acts 1:12
"To all the Apostles after His resurrection He gives equal power and says, 'As the Father sent me, so I send you'." St. Cyprian, "De Unitate"
"For neither did Peter, whom first the Lord chose....when Paul disputed with him afterwards about the circumcision, claim anything to himself insolently, nor arrogantly assume anything, so as to say that he held a primacy, and that he ought to be obeyed by novices and those lately come." St. Cyprian, Epistle 70 concerning the baptism of heretics
"As soon as Peter heard these words,'Whom say ye that I am', remembering his place he exercised this primacy, a primacy of confession, not of honour, a primacy of faith, not of rank." St. Ambrose, "De In Som Sacr." 4:32
"He (referring to Peter) had not the primacy over the disciples, but among the disciples. His primacy among the disciples was the same as that of Stephen among the deacons." St. Augustine--Sermon 10 on Peter and Paul
The word 'rock' has only a demonstrative value - it signifies nothing but the steadfast and firm faith of the apostles." - St. Cyril of Alexandria--"Of the Trinity",4th Book
In the administration of the Church each bishop has the free discretion of his own will, having to account only to the Lord for his actions. None of us may set himself up as bishop of bishops., nor compel his brothers to obey him; every bishop of the Church has full liberty and complete power; as he cannot be judged by another, neither can he judge another (Cyprian’s opening address to the Council of Carthage
through the changes of times and successions, the ordering of bishops and the plan of the Church flow onwards; so that the church is founded upon the bishops and every act of the Church is controlled by these same rulers. Since this then is founded on the divine law, I marvel that some, with daring temerity, have chosen to write to me as if they wrote in the name of the Church. ~Cyprian to the Lapsed, Epistle XXVI
Faith is the foundation of the Church, for it was NOT OF THE PERSON but of the faith of St Peter that is was said that the gates of hell should not prevail against it, it is the confession of faith that has vanquished hell. Jesus Christ is the Rock. He did not deny the grace of His name when he called him Peter, because he borrowed from the rock the constancy and solidity of his faith. Endeavor then thyself to be a rock - thy rock is thy faith and faith is the foundation of the Church. If thou art a rock, thou shall be in the Church, for the Church is build upon the rock" ~St Ambrose, On the Incarnation.
“Rock is the unity of faith, not the person of Peter.” ~St Cyprian, De Catholicae Ecclesiae Unitate, cap. 4-5
All these quotes are true but I don’t find the last one by Cyprian above anywhere
Also I don’t see anywhere the below
“It was proper that Paul should go to see Peter. Why? was Peter superior to him and to the other Apostles? No, but because, of all the Apostles, he was the first to be entrusted by the Lord with the care of the churches. Had he need to be taught, or to receive a commission from Peter? No, but that Peter might know that Paul had received the power which had also been given to himself” St Ambrose The Papacy, by Abbe Guettee, pp. 173-174).
It may have been something similar but I can’t find exact by ambrosiaster who some thought was Ambrose but others thought is not
But I think Ambrose might have believed that because Augustine who he converted did
And he said
“Faith is the foundation of the Church, for it WAS NOT THE PERSON BUT OF THE FAITH OF ST. PETER that it was said that the gates of hell should not prevail against it, it is THE CONFESSION OF FAITH that has vanquished hell. Jesus Christ is the Rock. He did not deny the grace of His name when He called him Peter, because he BORROWED FROM THE ROCK THE CONSTANCY AND SOLIDITY OF HIS FAITH. Endeavor then, thyself to BE A ROCK THY ROCK IS THY FAITH, AND FAITH IS THE FOUNDATION OF THE CHURCH. If thou art a rock, thou shalt be in the Church for the Church is built upon the rock. St Ambrose, On The Incarnation
He may have meant St. Peter is the master only among the apostles in the early church because he was the first to act as bishop to be mouth of apostles to teach the faith to others he spoke to the jews and gentiles for the apostles he resembled the ones who have the correct faith
“The Church is built upon THE ONE WHOM PETER CONFESSED when he said, ‘You are the Christ , the Son of the Living God’. That is how Peter came to be called the rock, and he REPRESENTED THE PERSON OF THE CHURCH WHO IS BUILT UPON THIS ROCK AND WHO HAS RECEIVED THE KEYS OF THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. Indeed, Christ did NOT say to Peter, ‘You are rock (petra)” but ‘You are Peter (Petrus). For THE ROCK (PETRA) WAS CHRIST whom he CONFESSED, as does THE WHOLE CHURCH, and he Simon, received the name of Peter” St Augustine, Retractationes I, XXI,
I hope that quote of Augustine is true
“Christ is the ROCk who granted to His Apostles that they should be called rock. God has founded His Church on this rock, and it is from this Rock [Christ] that Peter has been named” ‚ St. Jerome
“I believe that by the rock you must understand THE UNSHAKEN FAITH OF THE APOSTLES”. St Hilary of Poitiers, 2nd Book On The Trinity
“For whoever is united to Christ BECOMES PETER” Origen, Commentaria in Evengelium Secundum Matthaeum, PG 13, 997-1004
Not sure if it is quoted exactly that way just as I couldn’t find exactly Cyprus’s one
I got from somewhere
When do the more obtuse statements begin to come? When Rome already begins overstepping her bounds, and the West begins to claim altogether too much, more than is her due. We see this with Pope St. Victor, who you quoted, Vic. We see this with St. Peter Chrysologus, who was Bishop or Ravenna in the West. We see this with St. Fulgentius, Bishop of Ruspe.
So catholicism did still exist but not from the beginning necessarily but I am still going to be confirmed in their church and have communion to be sure
If that means Rome is in error still I believe it is saved if it does not hold serious heresies which I don’t believe it does for it still holds to the early church fathers but the purpose of knowing the true faith is for orthodox not to be condemned and to show the true faith which may attract others but Rome can still be saved for it has already agreed with all the councils on the essentials and it is never allowed to change what other popes have taught in the future councils can not be made to be against the essentials but only to be more specific about non essentials the churches have already agreed on the essentials
But I will still go to Catholic Church to be confirmed and have communion and attend meetings to be sure
Some of these quotes may be supposedly telling the meanings of certain chapters and not what they actually said though it could be from the chapters
I believe the fathers are obscure and we can not know what they meant perhaps they believe the pope can only be the one to have the faith of Peter but if you agree with him you will be a rock also
All these quotes can go for either position for example the one by John chrysostom May mean peter sought to hear the other apostles and through doing so he gave his opinion which could be infallible if he exercises his gift but if not he admits others could be right without him but they are not guaranteed to be without it he has to later correct them to be the teacher of truth