Yes, both the Orthodox and those in submission to the Vatican. Of course, the Orthodox don't have a problem with a vacuum, as we have a Patriarch of Jerusalem. I've give the Crusader Patriarch credit, he is better to his flock than ours is to his.Peter J said:Are you claiming that we don't have a Bishop of Jerusalem? Or that the Latin Bishop of Jerusalem shouldn't have the title "Patriarch"?FatherHLL said:And your communion does not have a Bishop of Constantinople, Antioch, Alexandria or (drumroll please), the Holy Mother Church of all Christendom, Holy Zion, Jerusalem and the three Palestines. That would be...the Orthodox Patriarch of Jerusalem. Orthodoxy's Patriarchate in these Sees traces all the way back to the Apostles. Rome's, however, was created over a thousand years later as an alternative to those who actually had the Apostolic Succession in these Sees, the Orthodox Bishops.Wyatt said:Also, your communion does not have a Bishop of Rome...nice try though.
If the latter, the Melkites have been saying that for some time now.