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Mor Ephrem

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Antonious Nikolas said:
Two comments/questions, Mor:

1. Thank you for these!  The West Syriac Rite is so heavenly without the organs/keyboards.  It's a real treat for me. 
Yes, and for all the faithful.  Good grief, keyboards are horrible. 

If you can tell me where any parishes which chant unaccompanied might be located here in the NY/NJ/PA area, I'd love to visit.
PM me.  I have to think about it.  :-\

2. I'd be thrilled to find out that the East Syriac rite was preserved somewhere in our communion, but these guys are under the ACoE, right?
That is correct. 
 

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The church in those videos is great!
 

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Mor Ephrem said:
Antonis said:
The church in those videos is great!
Which one?  The first and third Liturgies were celebrated in SEERI's chapel, if I'm not mistaken, and the second was celebrated at the Orthodox Theological Seminary. 
Ah, I had only watched the first and third. That second one is beautiful, too. I liked the iconography in the other.
 

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Mor Ephrem said:
Not music, but videos.  These Liturgies were celebrated in the context of the Eight World Syriac Conference, held at St Ephrem Ecumenical Research Institute (SEERI), Kottayam, India, from 8-13 September 2014.

West Syriac Rite:

http://youtu.be/wGqgp4vqQe4 (celebrant, HE Mor Ostatheos Isaac)
http://youtu.be/SAqJjWlCpeo (celebrant, the Rev Dr MP George)

East Syriac Rite:

http://youtu.be/sWpAeUIC_cU (celebrant, HG Mar Aprem)
The video says "Chaldean Church", but he is Metropolitan of the Assyrian Church in India, no?
 

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The Assyrian Church in India is known as "Chaldean", for some reason. (Mor, do you know why? I've never heard why, from either Indians or Iraqis.)
 

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I love the white guy who is dressed more ethnically than most of the Indians in the first video.
 

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Here is a song in hindi I ran across today.  I actually like the use of instruments in this also, which is rare. 

http://youtu.be/lkJV7E5XfHs
 

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that's lovely, do you know where we can find the translation?
:)
 

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mabsoota said:
that's lovely, do you know where we can find the translation?
:)
I am sorry, I don't know the exact translation.  However, I believe that the meaning is taken from two other songs; "Those Apostles" and "Paul the Blessed". 

Those apostles;
Chosen, sent by God, they went
To ev'ry place,
Through all the world
Gentiles heard from them the news
The Gospel grace.
They proclaimed-the kingdom,
Heav'n's rule-of freedom,
For the faithful bliss.

Paul the Blessed-
Saint, the Lord's Apostle, said
If one comes to preach to you
Other doctrine than we knew,
Be he man or angel bright,
Curs'd be he in Church's sight;
Doctrines all diverse arise,
Shooting up with many lies;
Blest is he who first and last
Trusts God's truth and holds it fast.
 

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A collection of Indian Orthodox hymns from the service of Holy Matrimony. The songs are in English and Malayalam, with the Malayalam versions being sung by Fr. N K Korathu Kathanar, a famous Malpan of the IOC who passed away in 2001.

http://ds-wa.org/holy-matrimony.html
 

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Originally posted by Mor in another thread, this is quite beautiful:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqLL80aqZqA
 

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Beautiful prayer in the ancient Monastery of Mor Augin in Tur Abdin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5vQMfkISUI
 

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Some Coptic hymns in Western arrangements:
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeN-4ZTPv-Y">Gholghota</a>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVRJsb4z8rk">Thok te ti ghom</a>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asjPxoHiyA0">Aripsalin</a>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD0jPI0xvZ4">Vol evol</a>
 

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Dominika said:
Some Coptic hymns in Western arrangements:
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeN-4ZTPv-Y">Gholghota</a>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVRJsb4z8rk">Thok te ti ghom</a>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asjPxoHiyA0">Aripsalin</a>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD0jPI0xvZ4">Vol evol</a>
My eyes got very teary on Vol Evol...as I mentioned in another forum, these sound quite natural as if these hymns were made for polyphony

And Golgotha!!! This truly reflects a burial hymn for Christ.  I can definitely imagine taking Christ down from the Cross and sending him to the tomb of Joseph of Arimethea...a worthy way to chant the conclusion of Good Friday
 

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My favorite priest, Fr. Dawoud Bebawy, to listen to, chanting the Fraction to the Virgin and the Angels in english:

https://soundcloud.com/mikeyyoussef/fraction-for-the-virgin-and-angels-fr-dawoud-bibawy

text:

http://tasbeha.org/hymn_library/view/2506
 

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Recently one of the Armenians posted for me three links to different recordings of the Badarak and also mentioned there are two major musical settings in use of it. 

And stupid me, I forgot to bookmark that post.  So can Salpy or Aram or another Armenian generously tell me all that again?  I may have been in error in thinking they were saying there were two major musical settings.  I myself have two recordings of the Badarak in my iTunes library which are very different; one of them is referred to as "Armenian Liturgy - Patarag" and has a decidedly more oeiental sound.  I would love to hear a recording of the Armenian Lirurgy that makes use of cymbals.
 

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minasoliman said:
Dominika said:
Some Coptic hymns in Western arrangements:
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeN-4ZTPv-Y">Gholghota</a>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVRJsb4z8rk">Thok te ti ghom</a>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asjPxoHiyA0">Aripsalin</a>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD0jPI0xvZ4">Vol evol</a>
My eyes got very teary on Vol Evol...as I mentioned in another forum, these sound quite natural as if these hymns were made for polyphony

And Golgotha!!! This truly reflects a burial hymn for Christ.  I can definitely imagine taking Christ down from the Cross and sending him to the tomb of Joseph of Arimethea...a worthy way to chant the conclusion of Good Friday
Very beautiful, may Bishoy Awad be our Komitas.
 

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Frederica Mathewes-Green posted this on her FB page.

Nelly Gasparyan singing Lord have mercy in the Holy Cross Cathedral on Aghtamar Island in Lake Van.

https://youtu.be/UPwVgwp-ohs
 

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I like this:

http://saintcyril.us/new/media/hymns/feasts/resurrection/khristos_anesty_long/khristos_anesty_long.html

This is Xristos Anesti chanted in the Coptic way.  What I like most though about the way this hymn is chanted is that the person chanting is actually pronouncing the Greek correctly, something that we Copts need to work on  :p
 

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minasoliman said:
I like this:

http://saintcyril.us/new/media/hymns/feasts/resurrection/khristos_anesty_long/khristos_anesty_long.html

This is Xristos Anesti chanted in the Coptic way.  What I like most though about the way this hymn is chanted is that the person chanting is actually pronouncing the Greek correctly, something that we Copts need to work on  :p
Why does he chant it without the jenkim on MNHMACI?
 

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Because there's no such thing as a jenkim in Greek.  That's the way it is supposed to be pronounced.  Same thing at the very beginning.  There is no "eXristos", it's just "Xristos".
 

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"Der Voghormya" (Lord have mercy) sung on April 24 at the ruins of an Armenian church in Diyarbakir:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvVbkZqVVwo

Diyarbakir used to be called Dikranagert, and it's where my grandmother's family came from.
 

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It's a little early for Christmas, but I really enjoyed this site:

http://syrianorthodoxchurch.com/pastor/SYRIAC_C/syriac_c.htm
 

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minasoliman said:
It's a little early for Christmas, but I really enjoyed this site:

http://syrianorthodoxchurch.com/pastor/SYRIAC_C/syriac_c.htm
He really is wonderful.
 

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Coptic Kiahk chant "Ya Maryam" in Arabic by Fairuz :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBapI67BUEA
 

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If Fairuz would chant all the Coptic hymns, at least those in Kiahk (Advent month), I would be the happiest man!
 

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<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMxBkHo-IpE">Avedis - Armenian song for Christmas</a> ;)
 

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I like this ethiopian music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NgZLtJ4WEE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

You may find a lot justly on youtube (Mirtnesh like singeress)

Also i like few songs by Marie Keyrouz (maronitian)
 
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