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I have uploaded some hymns used by the Malankara Syriac Orthodox (Jacboite and Indian Orthodox) Church during the Great Lent. In the Syriac tradition, on each Sunday of the Lent, we commemorate different miracles by our Lord. These hymns are for the most part desribing various miracles. I have made an attempt to give a rough English translation of the hymns in the info section of Youtube.

Hymn from the Third Sunday of Lent:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCQYsmTvHyY

Hymns from the Fifth Sunday of Lent:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86VYfeG5ISc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGVhV0diWxg

In Christ,
Mathew G M
 

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From another thread:

minasoliman said:
Yes, you reminded me of the vowels:

There is a particular hymn sung in Lent right after the reading of the Synexarium (Saints of the Day), called "Megalo" or "The Ever-Greatest."  The hymn's first verse (which I think is pure Greek) is the longest part of the hymn, and it goes like this:

"Meghalo arshe-erevs yestos e-onas ak-ranton agios o Theos, agios Yes-sheros, agios athana-tos, o estavro-tees de-emas, e-leyson e-mas."

"The ever-greatest pure highpriest forever is the holy God, holy Mighty, holy Immortal, who was crucified for us, have mercy upon us."

from http://tasbeha.org/media/index.php?st=Hymns%2FFasts%2FGreat_Lent%2FCantor_Gad_Lewis%2FMeghalo%2FMeghalo_Lesson_1.116.mp3 (this is also lesson one of the hymn, if you like to learn it)

Here's a full recording from Arch-Psalter Ibrahim Ayad, the Psalter at St. Mark's Cathedral in Cairo (Papal residence).  This is Megalo plus the Trisagion:

http://www.umich.edu/%7Eawadd/hymnsmtg/hymns/08lent/m.ibrahim/M.Ibrahim_Ayad_Meghalo_%28Live%29.mp3

God bless.

PS  This is just one of a plethora of "vowelated" (for lack of a better word) hymns that the Coptic Church has; these are usually hardest to learn.
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Ah, yes, and an analysis of the hymn Megalo if you like.  By the way, the hymn has three verses before it goes into Apenchois.  So this is only a third of the very looooong hymn.  It's why in churches today, we only sing the first verse, but meditations on the second and third is encouraged while the deacon is singing it.

http://www.copticheritage.org/PagEd+index-page_id-755.phtml

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and notes:

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~awadd/hymnsmtg/notes/08lent/Meghalo.jpg
 

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The quality of the recording is not that great, but it's part of an Armenian requiem.  You also kind of get to see what the bema in an Armenian Church looks like during Lent, with the curtain closed over the altar, and an icon of the Crucifixion set up in front of the curtain.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHJ1_AUZBUQ

For more information on the Armenian custom of covering the altar during Lent, see reply 1 of the following thread:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,11249.msg152436.html#msg152436
 

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Holy Week hymns from the Coptic Church:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnq6fPbbyWE
 
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The Twelfth Hour Gospel reading of Good Friday chanted in english:
http://stpeterandstpaul.org/index.php?page=download&op=getFile&title=16+Gospel

Notice that the first half of the Gospel reading is chanted in the mournful tune. When the reader reaches the part of the Gospel where the Jews quote Christ saying "I will rise again" the reader switches suddenly to the joyful tune.

 

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A Syriac hymn:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wN65laS6uA&feature=channel_page

If anyone knows anything about this hymn, information would be appreciated.  It is really beautiful.
 

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I was there last night at St. Ephraim Cathedral.  This hymn which was recorded in this video was quite beautiful.  They had a power point display on the wall showing the words in Syriac and translated into English.  It is a prayer about the Holy Cross and it was wonderful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0VvOTsXRyk
 
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Khristos Anesti

Last year I prepared a small video presentation on an Armenian Orthodox Resurrection hymn on my website. I also made available for download the complete audio file as well as an english translation of the text:

http://erkohet.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=48:nortsaghik&catid=27:smnuhymnody&Itemid=22
 
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The video presentation introducing the below article begins with an english rendition of a segment of an Armenian Orthodox Resurrection hymn and concludes with a segment of a Coptic Resurrection hymn. Both segments pertain to the subject of the article viz., the joy of the Angels on account of the Resurrection. Throughout the article there are snippets of other OO Resurrection hymns that can be streamed. Download links for many of the sound clips are provided at the end of the article:

http://erkohet.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=53:christisrisenarticle&catid=39:smnudoctrineother&Itemid=14
 

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Some joyful singing by children on Palm Sunday:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymf_FdKaQtU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eliuKNnefOM&feature=channel_page


This reminds me of the children of the first Palm Sunday:


15 But when the chief priests and the teachers of the law saw the wonderful things he did and the children shouting in the temple area, "Hosanna to the Son of David," they were indignant.

16"Do you hear what these children are saying?" they asked him.
      "Yes," replied Jesus, "have you never read,
  " 'From the lips of children and infants
      you have ordained praise'[a]?"

(Matthew 21)
 

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This is the hymn that is sung during the kiss of peace in the Armenian Church:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvqGByujCls

Krisdos ee mech mer haydnetzav, Vor enn Asdvadz asd pazmehtzav. Khaghaghootyan tsayn hunchetzav, Soorp voghchooyni hraman duvav, Yegeghetzis mi antzn yeghev, Hampooyrus hot lurman duvav, Tushnamootyunun heratsav, Sern huntanoorus supretsav. Art bashdonyaik partzyal uztsayn, Dook zorhnootyun ee mi peran. Miasnagan Asdvadzootyan, Voroom srovpekn yen surpapan.

Translation:

Christ is in our midst hath been revealed. He who is God is here seated. The voice of peace hath resounded. Holy greeting hath been enjoined. Here the Church is become one soul. This kiss is given for a bond of fullness. The enmity hath been removed. And love is spread over us all. Now ministers, raising your voice, give ye blessings with one accord to the consubstantial Godhead, to whom Seraphim give praises.

http://www.cilicia.com/armo_badarak27.html
 

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Hymn sung before Communion in the Armenian Church:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBQb_1-313w&feature=channel_page


ORHNYAL EH ASDVADZ, Krisdos badarakyal, pashkhi ee michi meroom, Aleluia. zMarmin yoor da mez geragoor, yev soorp zaryoon yoor tzogheh ee mez, Alelluya. Madik ar Der yev arek uzlooys, Alelluyah. Jashagetzek yev desek zi kaghtzr eh Der, Alelluya, (Orhnetzek uzDer hergins, Alelluya, Orhnetzek uzna ee partsoons, Alelluya) Orhnehtzek uzna, amenayn hreshdagk nora, Alleluya, Orhnetzek uzna amenayn zorootyunk norah, Alelluya.

Translation:

Blessed is the Lord, Christ is sacrificed and shared among us, Alleluia. His body He gives us for food and he bedews us with His Holy Blood, Alleluia. Draw near to the Lord and take ye the light, Alleluia. O taste ye and see how sweet is the Lord, Alleluia. (Praise the Lord in the heavens, Alleluia. Praise Him in the heights, Alleluia). Praise ye Him, all His angels, Alleluia. Praise ye Him, all ye His hosts, Alleluia.

http://www.cilicia.com/armo_badarak37.html
 

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A Coptic Resurrection hymn:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xlSYIxS7gI
 

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A lovely mezmur:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GPI1PmAJTo
 
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With the recent launch of 'St George the Prince of Martyrs' on The Online Treasury of the Divine Riches of the OO Church, 3 new audio files with accompanying lyrics have been made available for download (click here to be directed to the relevant page):

1. 'Treading the Road of Affliction' by Vivian El-Sudany; a Coptic Orthodox 'mediha' to the Great Martyr.
(Multimedia presentation based on this audio track can be viewed on the website, or here on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zHonBOqGRU)

2. Annual Coptic Doxology to St George by cantor Mark Tadros chanted in both English and Coptic.

3. Coptic ode to St George by cantor Mark Tadros chanted in English.
 

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Visit following Internet Radio and TV of Malankara Jacobite Syrian Christian Church.
Most of the programs are in native language of Malayalam


shubho - Radio Malankara - http://radiomalankara.com/

teshbuhto - Malankara Vision - http://malankaravision.com/
 

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Coptic hymn to the Mother of God:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIA4ifqxxZU
 

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Salpy said:
Coptic hymn to the Mother of God:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIA4ifqxxZU
One of my favorites, although I wish most of our churches sing this in a higher tone than presented, but understandably, some voices can't handle high tones.

I want to record one from a church in Jersey City where I grew up as part of the choir of Epsaltos, who kept a high tone on most of their hymns.
 
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One of my favourite Coptic melodies: the Trisagion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byTKF2CzNLA
 

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Alveus Lacuna said:
The Coptic chanting seems so sssssllllllllloooooooowwwwww!
That's their style.  It's quite ancient.  :)

This may be an example of a "vowelated" hymn that Mina mentioned in reply 241, above.  Either he or EA can confirm whether that is the case.
 
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It's only the introductory vowel to the festal Trisagion that is elongated as such (i.e. the first 'a' sound of the first word, 'Agios').

Such vocalisation of the vowels is an element of Coptic hymnody inherited from the ancient Pharaonic religious tradition. The seven vowels were considered sacred, representing perfect sublimity.

I here post a link to the Institution of the Eucharist segment of the Coptic Basillian Liturgy because it's performed by one of my favourite bishops, H.G. Bishop Youssef:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3us3wPPpts



 

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EkhristosAnesti said:
It's only the introductory vowel to the festal Trisagion that is elongated as such (i.e. the first 'a' sound of the first word, 'Agios').

Such vocalisation of the vowels is an element of Coptic hymnody inherited from the ancient Pharaonic religious tradition. The seven vowels were considered sacred, representing perfect sublimity.

I here post a link to the Institution of the Eucharist segment of the Coptic Basillian Liturgy because it's performed by one of my favourite bishops, H.G. Bishop Youssef:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3us3wPPpts
Is it just me or is the audio a bit off from the video?
 

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Salpy said:
Alveus Lacuna said:
The Coptic chanting seems so sssssllllllllloooooooowwwwww!
That's their style.  It's quite ancient.  :)

This may be an example of a "vowelated" hymn that Mina mentioned in reply 241, above.  Either he or EA can confirm whether that is the case.

EkhristosAnesti said:
It's only the introductory vowel to the festal Trisagion that is elongated as such (i.e. the first 'a' sound of the first word, 'Agios').

Such vocalisation of the vowels is an element of Coptic hymnody inherited from the ancient Pharaonic religious tradition. The seven vowels were considered sacred, representing perfect sublimity.

Sssooooooocccooooooolll!  8)
 

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EkhristosAnesti said:
One of my favourite Coptic melodies: the Trisagion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byTKF2CzNLA

Beautiful ...i just don't care for those western ugh  images ,i dislike them with a passion.....i prefer the traditional icons EO and OO ...And especially, i don't care for the divine mercy image.....That Revelation to a polish nun to honor and to celebrate the first Sunday after pascha resurrection Sunday as  a greater mercy to mankind than The resurrection itself like The Lords Passion crucifiction death and resurrection wasn't good enough...That alone makes me question the authenticity  of that apparition that claims to be Jesus....

 

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Another beautiful Ethiopian mezmur:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii6JXWmKJG8
 
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Thought i'd make mention here of the recent updates to www.erkohet.com relevant to this thread:

The first stanza + chorus of a Coptic Pentecost hymn, Asomen To Kyrio, chanted in Greek, followed by Coptic, followed by English, is available for download here.

An explanation of and contemplation on the prolonged vowel intonations unique to Coptic chant is provided here.
 

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Awesome Coptic hymn, Ti met esnouti:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IsyqKTOhm8
 

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I didn't know ethiopians did zagrouta.

Do other non african orientals do zagrouta? I know georgians and armenians don't.

 

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I'm afraid I don't know what zagrouta is.  Could you explain?
 

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Dear Salpy,

Zagrouta is the sound women do to celebrate, like a very fast rololololololololiiiiiiiii, like the one you can hear in the ethiopian song posted in here.

Zagrouta is common in middle east, northern africa, and other african regions.

I'm so glad you didn't hear me trying to do the zagrouta, I can't, and it's very unbefitting for a man to do that.
 

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Oh, I know what you are talking about now.  :)  Thanks.
 

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Pravoslav09 said:
I didn't know ethiopians did zagrouta.

Do other non african orientals do zagrouta? I know georgians and armenians don't.
If I correctly understood what zagrouta is, then I have heard something like that in the Coptic church. It was a consecration of some girls as 'sisters' in a Coptic monastery (not yet nuns). I was unprepared and suddenly I hear that zagroutta, like some voice of strong alarm. I became very confused and frightened, I thought, 'What happened, what happened?'  :D. Then they explained to me that it was a way to express their joy and congratulate the sisters.  :)
 

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Salpy said:
Awesome Coptic hymn, Ti met esnouti:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IsyqKTOhm8
Dear Salpy. Are you an Armenian from Istanbul? Sorry for this silly question  :). Because I was unable to listen to that hymn; it was like my ears were sawed.  I have listened to much better performances of Coptic hymns. The Armenians in Armenia are not able to listen to such songs. I have some mp3 files, better performances of Coptic hymns, kindly sent to me by a Coptic brother, I like most of them, but even they were rejected by our listeners, when I asked that they might be broadcast through some Christian radio here, in Armenia :(. Even the very small vibration that exists in the singing of the Turkish Armenians or Greeks is not 'understood' here. They think it's a Muslim style and that it is acceptable only in folk music but not church hymns. So usually only the performances of Armenian and Russian choirs are broadcast here (I mean the church songs, performed by them).

Some Coptic hymns have really wonderful melodies, there are some nice Coptic Alleluias that I have listened to, but when they are performed in the Coptic style, those beautiful melodies just lose their beauty in the unprepared ears of foreigners, because not every ear is, or can be, accustomed to it.

Well, our brother EA knows that there is some theology hidden behind it :). However, it's not for all ears. Pity for those beautiful melodies to not reach to many ears because of that unique style. :( Because I wished that much more people knew Coptic hymns.
 

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I was born and raised in Los Angeles, which means I grew up hearing a little bit of everything. 

We have deacons from Istanbul at our church.  They are very knowledgeable about the old ways of doing the chants, at least from a Western Armenian standpoint.  I know in Armenia and Iran it is probably different.  I know what you mean about the Middle Eastern sound of the way the Istanbul Armenians do it.  However, I have been told that such a way of singing is really originally Christian, and that the Arabs and Turks borrowed from us.

I know the sound of the Coptic chanting is very different from what we are used to in our Church, but I really like it.  It's very ancient, and I find it deeply spiritual.  Last Saturday, I was at a Coptic Monastery which is about two hours outside of Los Angeles, and I bought a CD of Coptic hymns.  I've been listening to it in my car, and I really love it.

Regarding the zaghrouta, I've heard it at a Coptic baptism.  It's a sound made to express happiness.

The only time I've heard Armenians do it was at a party I went to some years ago, that was thrown by some Armenians I knew from Beirout.  A lot of people were drunk and we were dancing the shoorch bar and all of a sudden everyone around me was making that sound.  It wasn't a religious context, of course.  People were just drunk.  :)


 
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