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Patron Saint (Feast Day vs. Birthday)

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I have a quick question regarding the selection of a patron saint. The priest who is guiding me into the Church told me not to stress about the issue and to do my own research to see if anyone is particularly appealing. One that stood out to me is John of Kronstadt; I love his writings, repudiations of materialism, charity and efforts to bring others (back) into the Church, and the way he used his final years to oppose the rise of socialism and warn of the dangers of militant atheism that would come with it. However, I happened to notice afterwards that his feast day falls on my birthday (December 20th). Is that appropriate? I'm torn between the thought that, on one hand, it's a sign that it was meant to be, and, on the other, that I shouldn't choose a saint whose feast falls on a day generally used to selfishly celebrate myself.
 

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What is you name?
 

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It's absolutely appropiate. In some families there have been a habit that the birthday also indicates the patron (the nameday). The only pity is that it falls during the Nativity Fast
 

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Saxon said:
I have a quick question regarding the selection of a patron saint. The priest who is guiding me into the Church told me not to stress about the issue and to do my own research to see if anyone is particularly appealing. One that stood out to me is John of Kronstadt; I love his writings, repudiations of materialism, charity and efforts to bring others (back) into the Church, and the way he used his final years to oppose the rise of socialism and warn of the dangers of militant atheism that would come with it. However, I happened to notice afterwards that his feast day falls on my birthday (December 20th). Is that appropriate? I'm torn between the thought that, on one hand, it's a sign that it was meant to be, and, on the other, that I shouldn't choose a saint whose feast falls on a day generally used to selfishly celebrate myself.
If you were given a Christian name, you are blessed. You can always venerate St. John as a saint who is special to you.
 

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Saxon said:
mike said:
What is you name?
William, middle name Michael.
William of York, martyred by jealous Cistercian monks and considered a saint of the Church.
William of Gellone, also a saint, knight and monk, about whom many French chivalrous poems were written.
 

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Porter ODoran said:
William of York, martyred by jealous Cistercian monks and considered a saint of the Church.
By whom?
 

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mike said:
Porter ODoran said:
mike said:
Porter ODoran said:
William of York, martyred by jealous Cistercian monks and considered a saint of the Church.
By whom?
By the Church.
What Church?
There is only one Church, and this subforum is probably not a place for that kind of argument.
 

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Porter ODoran said:
mike said:
Porter ODoran said:
mike said:
Porter ODoran said:
William of York, martyred by jealous Cistercian monks and considered a saint of the Church.
By whom?
By the Church.
What Church?
There is only one Church, and this subforum is probably not a place for that kind of argument.
Can you prove a Roman Catholic from a XII century is venerated as an Orthodox saint?
 

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Thanks for the input so far! The priest (Fr. Peter) gave me a pretty dichotomous option for baptism - either choose a saint particularly recognized by Orthodoxy, or keep my secular name as a baptismal name isn't a requirement. That and this discussion incidentally brings me to another issue I'm unclear on. I was of the belief that pre-schism Roman Catholic saints are still recognized by Orthodoxy? I admittedly have little interest in anyone more closely associated with the Latin Church, but I spoke with someone who knows the monks involved in icon painting at Holy Trinity Monastery in Jordanville. As I was born in Canada to a family of English ancestry, he suggested St. Edward the Confessor and showed me an icon of him that had been reproduced there. I haven't been able to find any particular references to that St. Edward from any Orthodox sources, though.
 

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Yes, William is a Christian name and, yes, saints of the West have not lost their saintliness. It would just be a matter of your finding a specific saint to make your own and finding a day on which to celebrate him.
 

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http://www.easterngiftshop.com/Item/IcWWilliamG

 

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I have a friend who was named the Portuguese counterpart for William, but he still chose to be renamed because the saint was so obscure in the Church and he may even not be the reason why it's such a common name in the Iberian world. I know another similar case, related to another minor saint. I don't think it's wrong, at least their choices weren't met by resistance from clergy (as opposed to a friend of mine who was named after an apostle but chose another saint).

As for me, I was very happy with the archangel I was named after so I didn't hesitate to keep him, but I'd probably have chosen St. Silouan the Athonite if I hadn't been grant such an awesome name, for roughly the same reasons as OP is contemplating St. John: I enjoy him and he's commemorated in my birthday.
 

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Saxon said:
I haven't been able to find any particular references to that St. Edward from any Orthodox sources, though.
http://www.orthodox.net/western-saints/edward.html

http://www.events.orthodoxengland.org.uk/2016/08/11/
 

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hecma925 said:
Saxon said:
I haven't been able to find any particular references to that St. Edward from any Orthodox sources, though.
http://www.orthodox.net/western-saints/edward.html

http://www.events.orthodoxengland.org.uk/2016/08/11/
Those are for a different King Edward - King Edward the Martyr, not King Edward the Confessor who was somewhat later.

I know about him as that's my name, so I looked him up one time after I'd been discussing choosing a patron saint with my priest.
 

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This might be what you're looking for: Edward the Confessor I didn't turn up an icon in my quick search.

Let me add that it is perfectly OK to choose a patron saint with whom you share a birthday. Many of us choose one with whom we share a name. It's probably a good idea to have some sort of connection to that saint, just to help you feel comfortable. What that connection is can vary.
 

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I know being baptised a Catholic some very odd things occurred that should not have. I was baptised TWICE. The first was by a Priest in hospital when it was thought that I was likely to die, and said Priest named me Marion Peter. The second was when I was baptised in a Church and said priest gave me the first name my mother chose for me and my middle name Eric. When choosing a Saint's name, they couldn't think of one, so they went ahead with "Erik" of Sweden, who converted that country to Christianity. Nevertheless, my middle name is STILL spelt with a "c". And Marion Peter was no more. What a mess.
 

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Is that appropriate?
It's fine.  Like you, I had several options regarding my baptismal name and patron saint.  I could have choosen a saint commemorated on my birthday, May 15, but the only females are commemorated on the Sunday of the Myrrhbearing Women and have other days when they are commemorated individually, including Sts. Mary Magdalene (July 22), Mary the wife of Clopas, Joanna (June 27), Salome, mother of the sons of Zebedee (August 3), Martha and Mary, sisters of Lazarus (June 4).  The holy right-believing Queen Tamara of Georgia is commemorated twice during the year: on May 1, the day of her repose, and also on the Sunday of the Myrrh-Bearing Women.

I could have kept my given name and celebrated the feast day of my patron saint which was not my birthday.  I could have chosen the patron saint, St. Euphrosyne, Abbess of Polotsk, whose feast day falls eight days after my birthday, the traditional name day. I could have chosen a random saint who I admired but had no association with names or dates. 

In the end, I went with my middle name (Kristine) and chose the closest variant, Christina.  I discovered St. Christina the Virgin-martyr of Ancyra who is commemorated three days after my birthday.

I was of the belief that pre-schism Roman Catholic saints are still recognized by Orthodoxy?
Yes.
 

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Thank you for the responses everyone!

After speaking with Fr. Peter yesterday, I learned I was looking at the new calendar instead of the old, so St. John's ROCOR feast day is actually on Dec. 7th. We looked through a directory of Dec. 20th feast days and discovered a New Martyr called Василий Мирожин (Vasili/Basil Mirozhin/Miroshin). There are only a couple of (Russian) available; he was arrested by the NKVD in 1937 for opposing the closure of a church and making anti-communist remarks to parishioners, and was deported to a gulag where he died on Dec. 20th 1941. As a newer and lesser-known Martyr, I really like the idea of being one of the (likely) few people to commemorate him this way. Also, his name is the Russian equivalent to my legal name, so Fr. Peter also pointed out that my baptismal name would fit nicely.

Hieromartyr Mirozhin is also depicted in a wonderful icon, which Fr. Peter said had an unusual design?:

 
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