Pictures of Western Icons?

[brlon]

This is from an Anglican Ordinariate church, but it really stuck out to me - aside from the Virgin Mary looking to the right towards Jesus and not towards the viewer. I also don't recognize the two Saints on the left and right of the altar.

Saint Catherine of Alexandria (left), Saint Lawrence the Deacon (right).

 

[hecma925]

It's a deeisis setup, where Christ in the center is flanked by supplicating saints; in this case the Mother of God and John the Forerunner. 

 

[HaydenTE]

This is from an Anglican Ordinariate church, but it really stuck out to me - aside from the Virgin Mary looking to the right towards Jesus and not towards the viewer. I also don't recognize the two Saints on the left and right of the altar.

Is that Our Lady of Walsingham in Houston? I’ve been there before, but didn’t notice the icons on the altar.

 

[LivenotoneviL]

Yes.

 

[hecma925]

What's with the Hebrew?

 

[Orthodox_Slav]

why is there Hebrew surely this is not a synagogue this is not a Jewish place of worship! whats Hebrew doing there!?

 

[Dominika]

why is there Hebrew surely this is not a synagogue this is not a Jewish place of worship! whats Hebrew doing there!?

Hebrew is also one of the languages of the Orthodox Church:

Paschal troparion in Hebrew

 

[Orthodox_Slav]

why is there Hebrew surely this is not a synagogue this is not a Jewish place of worship! whats Hebrew doing there!?

Hebrew is also one of the languages of the Orthodox Church:

Paschal troparion in Hebrew

yes but this is an Anglican church!

 

[Jackson02]

why is there Hebrew surely this is not a synagogue this is not a Jewish place of worship! whats Hebrew doing there!?

Hebrew is also one of the languages of the Orthodox Church:

Paschal troparion in Hebrew

yes but this is an Anglican church!

The Aleph symbolizes truth, as does the Tav. Though since it's the last letter in the Hebrew alphabet, it means beginning and end. It's related to the "Alpha and Omega" symbol in Greek.

 

[Orthodox_Slav]

why is there Hebrew surely this is not a synagogue this is not a Jewish place of worship! whats Hebrew doing there!?

Hebrew is also one of the languages of the Orthodox Church:

Paschal troparion in Hebrew

yes but this is an Anglican church!

The Aleph symbolizes truth, as does the Tav. Though since it's the last letter in the Hebrew alphabet, it means beginning and end. It's related to the "Alpha and Omega" symbol in Greek.

thanks i get it now

 

[RaphaCam]

why is there Hebrew surely this is not a synagogue this is not a Jewish place of worship! whats Hebrew doing there!?

I suspect the holy prophets didn't talk to God in Slavonic.

 

[RaphaCam]

Hebrew is also one of the languages of the Orthodox Church:

Paschal troparion in Hebrew

I wonder who uses it. I mean, there are plenty of Orthodox Christians from Palestine and abroad in Israel, but I wouldn't expect such a fast substitution of their mother languages so that their liturgical language would change from Greek, Slavonic or Georgian to Hebrew in 70 years at most. Or there is active mission, but I never heard of such.

 

[Dominika]

Hebrew is also one of the languages of the Orthodox Church:

Paschal troparion in Hebrew

I wonder who uses it. I mean, there are plenty of Orthodox Christians from Palestine and abroad in Israel, but I wouldn't expect such a fast substitution of their mother languages so that their liturgical language would change from Greek, Slavonic or Georgian to Hebrew in 70 years at most. Or there is active mission, but I never heard of such.

I know there is a community of Russian Jews that are Orthodox Christians in Haifa.  I suppose it's unique parish that uses Hebrew as a liturgical language. A friend of mine, an only priest in the Polish Church that knows Hebrew, got from them (after months of exchanging e-mails) Horologion in Hebrew.

 

[RaphaCam]

I know there is a community of Russian Jews that are Orthodox Christians in Haifa.  I suppose it's unique parish that uses Hebrew as a liturgical language. A friend of mine, an only priest in the Polish Church that knows Hebrew, got from them (after months of exchanging e-mails) Horologion in Hebrew.

Wow, really interesting! Also, there's a PAOC priest in Rio who knows Hebrew too.

 

[Orthodox_Slav]

Russian Jews that are orthodox Christians now thats something new!? there usually either follow Judaism or are atheists.

 

[Dominika]

Russian Jews that are orthodox Christians now thats something new!? there usually either follow Judaism or are atheists.

I know in person such 2 brothers.

 

[LivenotoneviL]

Also - I know there are a lot of criticisms for other reasons - the Cathedral of Christ the Savior's infamous painting of the Trinity has Hebrew as well.

 

[Orthodox_Slav]

Also - I know there are a lot of criticisms for other reasons - the Cathedral of Christ the Savior's infamous painting of the Trinity has Hebrew as well.

i cant even look at it without cringing not because of the Hebrew  but just because of the old man God the father and the way it looks so unorthodox OH MY WHAT WAS THE RUSSIAN ORTHODOX CHURCH THINKING WHEN THEY MADE THIS!

 

[Jackson02]

Also - I know there are a lot of criticisms for other reasons - the Cathedral of Christ the Savior's infamous painting of the Trinity has Hebrew as well.

i cant even look at it without cringing not because of the Hebrew  but just because of the old man God the father and the way it looks so unorthodox OH MY WHAT WAS THE RUSSIAN ORTHODOX CHURCH THINKING WHEN THEY MADE THIS!

They were thinking they should embrace the captivity of the Russian Church.

 

[Orthodox_Slav]

This is from an Anglican Ordinariate church, but it really stuck out to me - aside from the Virgin Mary looking to the right towards Jesus and not towards the viewer. I also don't recognize the two Saints on the left and right of the altar.

btw in this picture, Jesus' feet are crossed on the crucifix and this is the heresy of Triclavianism!

 

[Jackson02]

This is from an Anglican Ordinariate church, but it really stuck out to me - aside from the Virgin Mary looking to the right towards Jesus and not towards the viewer. I also don't recognize the two Saints on the left and right of the altar.

this is the heresy of Triclavianism!

I don't think that was ever condemned by the Orthodox church.

 

[LivenotoneviL]

This is from an Anglican Ordinariate church, but it really stuck out to me - aside from the Virgin Mary looking to the right towards Jesus and not towards the viewer. I also don't recognize the two Saints on the left and right of the altar.

btw in this picture, Jesus' feet are crossed on the crucifix and this is the heresy of Triclavianism!

I find that way less imperfect than Russia's main Cathedral.

 

[LivenotoneviL]

They were thinking they should embrace the captivity of the Russian Church.

Who is the Russian Orthodox Church held captive by? Communism is dead... that is, mostly dead. There's a huge difference between being completely dead and mostly dead.

 

[Orthodox_Slav]

This is from an Anglican Ordinariate church, but it really stuck out to me - aside from the Virgin Mary looking to the right towards Jesus and not towards the viewer. I also don't recognize the two Saints on the left and right of the altar.

this is the heresy of Triclavianism!

I don't think that was ever condemned by the Orthodox church.

even though it was not necessarily condemned by any of the Eastern Orthodox churches during the time of the great schism when The roman catholic church was brewing up its horrible heresies they started to depicted the crucifixion with Jesus Christ's feet crossed
this act even though it is a minor one cause disruption in the church cause you have the orthodox looking at the Catholic crosses and going hey that looks different the feet are crossed in our crosses his feet are apart. I can assure you if you do some research you will find that before the schism both Rome and the east depicted Christ's feet apart!!! 

 

[RaphaCam]

They were thinking they should embrace the captivity of the Russian Church.

Who is the Russian Orthodox Church held captive by? Communism is dead... that is, mostly dead. There's a huge difference between being completely dead and mostly dead.

Jackson is referring to the infiltration of Latin ideals and patterns in the Russian Orthodox Church, which is often called the "Western Captivity".

 

[LivenotoneviL]

Ah. That period.

 

[Asteriktos]

Ah. That period.

I know. I can't stand British English either. Not that I blame RaphaCam of course.

 

[LivenotoneviL]

I know, right? Why is it outside the quotation marks?

 

[RaphaCam]

Ah. That period.

I know. I can't stand British English either. Not that I blame RaphaCam of course.

I don't get it, do I sound British?  olice:  (Scotland Yahd emoticon)

 

[LivenotoneviL]

He's using a play on the word "period."

 

[LivenotoneviL]

This painting is a mix mash of iconographic themes, so I don't know if it could be completely regarded as an "icon", but

This is from the 13th century Spain.
It's the awaiting of Final Judgement with Christ Enthroned in Majesty after the people have risen from the tombs, with many under the protection of the Theotokos.

 

[RaphaCam]

It seems this painting is actually from Spoleto, Italy, and there's some early neo-Byzantinism there. I googled it since I found this influence strange for late medieval Spain (although it might even be possible since the Visigothic Kingdom was frequently just Byzantine cosplay, so maybe some influence might have endured, who knows).

 

[Orthodox_Slav]

all saints of Britain:

 

[LivenotoneviL]

Sorry, I'm an idiot.

 

[RaphaCam]

Sorry, I'm an idiot.

Why would you say that? Don't be so tough with yourself...

 

[Orthodox_Slav]

I like the Celtic cross in the middle of the all saints of Britain icon I posted!

 

[LivenotoneviL]

Sorry, I'm an idiot.

Why would you say that? Don't be so tough with yourself...

Because the source of where I took the picture from said Spoleto, Italy, and I read the first two letters and thought "Ah, SPAIN!"

 

[LivenotoneviL]

I like the Celtic cross in the middle of the all saints of Britain icon I posted!

The Crucifix that I wear is a Celtic Cross. Although I bought a new Russian Cross that I will wear when it arrives because the Celtic Cross is rusting.

 

[RaphaCam]

Sorry, I'm an idiot.

Why would you say that? Don't be so tough with yourself...

Because the source of where I took the picture from said Spoleto, Italy, and I read the first two letters and thought "Ah, SPAIN!"

I got it pretty quick because it's the name of a delicious pasta fast-food chain.

 

[LivenotoneviL]

The annunciation by Rinaldo de Taranto