On a secular hobby related(DVD and film) forum I sometimes browse, someone started a topic asking Questions of Catholics. Most of the small minority of Catholics there aren't doing a good job defending Catholicism, so I thought some of the more erudite RCC members here might like to go "back to basics" for a moment. Here is the thread
And some of the comments by Evangelicals on the site:Matthew 6
7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
Doesn't this conflict with the whole "Hail Mary" thing? Shouldn't you pray to God specifically for what you need instead of repeating a single phrase?
Also, I've heard this a few times...is it true that to Catholics, tradition and Catholic Dogma supercede the Bible?
The Bible says you can only be saved through Jesus, if you think you need the Church to get saved, you got a whole lot of things wrong
Originally posted by Static Cling
About your second question: Catholics view sacred scripture and sacred tradition as equal halves of the deposit of faith that was handed down from Jesus to the Apostles. One doesn't supersede the other; they're two parts of a whole.
where do they get the idea that tradition is equal to scripture?
Aren't traditions things that were added over the last 2000 years?
1. Presbyters first called priests by Lucian 2nd c.
2. Sacerdotal mass instituted by Cyprian 3rd c.
3. Prayers for the dead A.D. 300
4. Making the sign of the cross A.D. 300
5. Wax candles A.D. 320
6. Veneration of angels, dead saints, and images A.D. 375
7. Mass became a daily ritual A.D. 394
8. Beginning of exaltation of Mary, term "Mother of God"
first applied to her by Council of Ephesus A.D. 431
9. Priests began to wear special clothing A.D. 500
10. Extreme Unction (Rite of Healing) A.D. 526
11. The doctrine of Purgatory by Gregory I A.D. 593
12. Latin used in worship A.D. 600
13. Prayers offered to Mary, dead saints and angels A.D. 600
14. First man to be proclaimed Pope (Boniface III) A.D. 610
15. Kissing the Pope's feet A.D. 709
16. Temporal power of Popes, conferred by Pepon,
King of the Franks A.D. 750
17. Veneration of cross, images, relics authorized A.D. 786
18. holy water, mixed with pinch of salt, chrism, and blessed
by a priest A.D. 850
19. Veneration of St. Joseph A.D. 890
20. College of Cardinals begun A.D. 927
21. Baptism of bells instituted by Pope John XIII A.D. 965
22. Canonization of dead saints by Pope John XV A.D. 995
23. Fasting on Fridays and Lent A.D. 998
24. The Mass developed gradually as a sacrifice, attendance
made obligatory 11th c.
25. Celibacy of priests declared A.D. 1079
26. Rosary adopted by Peter the Hermit A.D. 1090
27. The Inquisition instituted by Council of Verona A.D. 1184
28. Sale of indulgences A.D. 1190
29. Seven Sacraments, defined by Peter Lombard 12th c.
30. Transubstantiation, defined by Innocent III A.D. 1215
31. Auricular confession (Rite of reconciliation) of sins to a
priest instead of God, instituted by Innocent III A.D. 1215
32. Adoration of the wafer (called the Host), decreed by
Pope Honorius III A.D. 1220
33. Scapular invented by Simon Stock of England A.D. 1251
34. The cup forbidden to the laity at communion by Council of
Constance A.D. 1414
35. Purgatory proclaimed as a dogma by the Council of
Florence in A.D. 1439
36. Tradition declared of equal authority with the Bible by the
Council of Trent A.D. 1545
37. Apocryphal books are added to the Bible by the Council
of Trent A.D. 1546
38. Creed of Pope Pius IV imposed as the official creed in place
of the original Apostolic Creed A.D. 1560
39. Immaculate Conception of Mary (not virgin birth) proclaimed
by Pope Pius IX A.D. 1854
40. Syllabus of Errors proclaimed by Pope Pius IX and ratified
by the Vatican Council; condemned freedom of religion,
conscience, speech, press and scientific discoveries which
are disapproved by the Roman Church; asserted the Pope's
temporal authority over all civil rulers A.D. 1864
41. Infallibility of the Pope in matters of faith and morals
proclaimed by the Vatican Council A.D. 1870
42. Assumption of Mary proclaimed by Pius XII A.D. 1950
43. Mary proclaimed the "Mother of the Church" by Pope
Paul VI A.D. 1965
the Immaculate Conception means that Mary's mother was a virgin, right? Any Biblical basis for this? why is this even something Catholics believe?