- Nov 2, 2010
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- Los Angeles
Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!
This is not exactly an Orthodox ontology. We in Orthodox are not "born-again" and our Mystery of Baptism is not a symbol or reflection of cognisant conversion or sincere repentance, Baptism is from God. Baptism is a mystical conversion of the heart and soul, killing and burying the old man of Sin and entering the neophyte into a new life in Christ, even as a young infant. We do not choose God here, God has chosen us. The Baptism does all the work, we do nothing but receive it. So if we Baptize later it will make NO DIFFERENCE, the Baptism is Grace, and Grace is not given by measure or agency. Older people do not receive more Grace than younger. The Church MUST give Baptism to those, even infants, to prepare the life in the Church spiritually, by the Holy Spirit. The Baptism does all the work. If a person is 10 months old, 10 years old, or 100 years old, there is no difference. The "born-again" concepts of Baptism from Evangelicals fit more-so into the Orthodox Tradition of Confession/Repentance. If we find our communities or societies in an Orthodox decline, we do not need to change Orthodox, we need to change ourselves. Further, its not a matter of force of will, it must be of the Grace of God, so we must turn to prayer for these matters, deeply. The more we need change, the more deeply we need to pray and let God go before us doing His might works.Virtus_lb said:You are right, that's why I sometimes consider baptism of children(even though it's not wrong) leading Christians in wrong way. When 83% of country's population are Christians, and only 2%(maximum) exhibit Christian reasoning, then something's wrong... And tree is judged by its fruits you know...