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A priest dressed in a long white robe was mistaken for a member of the KKK at Indiana University--Bloomington.  It then started a social media firestorm with a retraction later offered, but with justification offered because the person was rightfully scared.  This is beyond ridiculous.

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/04/06/indiana-university-students-mistake-priest-for-kkk-member/
 

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“So what happened tonight goes like this: a person saw white robes and what looked to them like a weapon, got scared (rightfully so), warned people, warned staff, which in turn caused me to warn my residents because I need to look out for my residents, which in turn made it spread.”
How was it right for said person to make assumptions, especially ones based off of ignorance and that propagated unwarranted fear? 
 

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HaydenTE said:
“So what happened tonight goes like this: a person saw white robes and what looked to them like a weapon, got scared (rightfully so), warned people, warned staff, which in turn caused me to warn my residents because I need to look out for my residents, which in turn made it spread.”
How was it right for said person to make assumptions, especially ones based off of ignorance and that propagated unwarranted fear?
You know.
 

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NicholasMyra said:
HaydenTE said:
“So what happened tonight goes like this: a person saw white robes and what looked to them like a weapon, got scared (rightfully so), warned people, warned staff, which in turn caused me to warn my residents because I need to look out for my residents, which in turn made it spread.”
How was it right for said person to make assumptions, especially ones based off of ignorance and that propagated unwarranted fear?
You know.
I do?
 

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Ha, Breitbart.
 

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It means another stupid non-event becomes a headline for the right-wing crybaby outrage mongers.
 

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That is by no means confined to the right wing. Donning the victim mantle seems to be our national pastime as of late.
 

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Iconodule said:
It means another stupid non-event becomes a headline for the right-wing crybaby outrage mongers.
Yeah, this has absolutely NOTHING to do with making faulty assumptions, expressing outrage on social media, then retracting it but only after the fear was justified because of, you know, feelings. 
 

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scamandrius said:
Iconodule said:
It means another stupid non-event becomes a headline for the right-wing crybaby outrage mongers.
Yeah, this has absolutely NOTHING to do with making faulty assumptions, expressing outrage on social media, then retracting it but only after the fear was justified because of, you know, feelings.
College kids being dumb is news to you?
 

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Although he doesn't look scary:


The students were right in being cautious.

The original source material:
http://thetab.com/us/indiana/2016/04/05/last-night-white-robed-priest-mistaken-armed-kkk-klansman-1804
http://thetab.com/us/indiana/2016/04/06/dominican-friar-1859
 

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podkarpatska said:
I think it is more about the total.ignorance of religion among many young Americans.
Or the Klan for that matter.
 

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from one of opus' links

And, to answer the question on everyone’s mind, at the Red Mango Father Jude ordered an original and dark chocolate froyo mix with coconuts and peanuts on top.
This was extremely important.  I lost sleep over this just thinking about what he ordered
 

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Iconodule said:
scamandrius said:
Iconodule said:
It means another stupid non-event becomes a headline for the right-wing crybaby outrage mongers.
Yeah, this has absolutely NOTHING to do with making faulty assumptions, expressing outrage on social media, then retracting it but only after the fear was justified because of, you know, feelings.
College kids being dumb is news to you?
This is more than just about being dumb and you know that.  So many of these college kids have been so programmed to see racism, sexism, take-your-pick-ism in anything that they overreact, broadcast it via social media, the truth comes out but then they say they are justified in their mistakes because of their feelings. 
 

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*facepalm*

These kids go to school, and come out more stupid than ever. This Country is doomed, if these special snowflakes can't tell the difference between a priest, and a klansmen. What are these spoiled brats learning, other than victimhood? SJW'ers at their finest.
 

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What has happened to America's youth. You should consider reinstating the draft and drill some sense into them.
 

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Iconodule said:
scamandrius said:
Iconodule said:
It means another stupid non-event becomes a headline for the right-wing crybaby outrage mongers.
Yeah, this has absolutely NOTHING to do with making faulty assumptions, expressing outrage on social media, then retracting it but only after the fear was justified because of, you know, feelings.
College kids being dumb is news to you?
College kids are knuckleheads.
 

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Iconodule said:
It means another stupid non-event becomes a headline for the right-wing crybaby outrage mongers.

College kids being dumb is news to you?
Unlike HuffPo?

That is why the word is pronounced "stu-DENSE".
 

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Opus118 said:
Although he doesn't look scary:


The students were right in being cautious.

The original source material:
http://thetab.com/us/indiana/2016/04/05/last-night-white-robed-priest-mistaken-armed-kkk-klansman-1804
http://thetab.com/us/indiana/2016/04/06/dominican-friar-1859
Yes, they're right to be cautious about anything unfamiliar walking through campus and looking suspicious, but there's a huge difference between merely being cautious and assuming the worst. The student who "sounded the alarm" made an ass of himself by crying "WOLF!" He would have done better to ask questions and identify the suspicious character rather than alarm others to the presence of a "Klansman".
 

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I've grown in affinity lately for some of Breitbart. Milo Yiannopoulos is the greatest.
 

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I thought Dominicans were supposed to wear a black cope over their white habits, hence the English nickname blackfriars, just as Carmelites wear a white cope over their brown habits, hence whitefriars or magpies, and Franciscans wear a grey cope and habit (hence greyfriars), or brown in the case of the Cappucins (hence cappucinos).

It seems like if he were dressed in the classical Dominican appearance he could have avoided this.  But a huge number of other religious groups wear purely white robes.  Norbertine fathers, for example.  Or Samaritans, and various Islamic clerics, and Sikhs.  And Ethiopian Orthodox wrap themselves in a white shroud.  We use white baptismal robes.

Also, I would fear they might think our Paschal processions are some sort of prelude to a cross burning, especially if our clergy are vested in white rather than the Russian red.
 

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I'm just waiting for the accusations that these priests are guilty of cultural appropriation of KKK culture.
 

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Cyrillic said:
What has happened to America's youth. You should consider reinstating the draft and drill some sense into them.
Our military has become an political playground for social experimentation, so I'm not sure that would help.
 

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Cyrillic said:
What has happened to America's youth. You should consider reinstating the draft and drill some sense into them.
Would reinstating the Netherlands draft drill the dandy out of you?
 

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wgw said:
I thought Dominicans were supposed to wear a black cope over their white habits, hence the English nickname blackfriars, just as Carmelites wear a white cope over their brown habits, hence whitefriars or magpies, and Franciscans wear a grey cope and habit (hence greyfriars), or brown in the case of the Cappucins (hence cappucinos).

It seems like if he were dressed in the classical Dominican appearance he could have avoided this.  But a huge number of other religious groups wear purely white robes.  Norbertine fathers, for example.  Or Samaritans, and various Islamic clerics, and Sikhs.  And Ethiopian Orthodox wrap themselves in a white shroud.  We use white baptismal robes.

Also, I would fear they might think our Paschal processions are some sort of prelude to a cross burning, especially if our clergy are vested in white rather than the Russian red.
How do you know so much that you can tell a clergyman outside your own church what he's supposed to wear? ???
 

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The Klan may be a semi-esoteric organization in its origins. Their pointy hats might have an origin in the Spanish rituals of wearing similar robes, like the La Paz brotherhood? 


Seville


Seville. Notice the circle around the symmetrical cross.

I'm not going to post klan images here, but here's a link for comparison:
https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/enhanced/webdr03/2013/2/4/16/enhanced-buzz-18404-1360015130-10.jpg
 

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PeterTheAleut said:
wgw said:
I thought Dominicans were supposed to wear a black cope over their white habits, hence the English nickname blackfriars, just as Carmelites wear a white cope over their brown habits, hence whitefriars or magpies, and Franciscans wear a grey cope and habit (hence greyfriars), or brown in the case of the Cappucins (hence cappucinos).

It seems like if he were dressed in the classical Dominican appearance he could have avoided this.  But a huge number of other religious groups wear purely white robes.  Norbertine fathers, for example.  Or Samaritans, and various Islamic clerics, and Sikhs.  And Ethiopian Orthodox wrap themselves in a white shroud.  We use white baptismal robes.

Also, I would fear they might think our Paschal processions are some sort of prelude to a cross burning, especially if our clergy are vested in white rather than the Russian red.
How do you know so much that you can tell a clergyman outside your own church what he's supposed to wear? ???
Well, because every icon of Dominicans and every historic photo I have of them shows them attired with a black cope.  Wearing a white cope is not unusual these days, but it is not really the tradition.  I have a friend who is a traditionalist Dominican who celebrates the mass according to their traditional Latin rite in the Bay Area.  I also personally admire St. Dominic; the order's later involvement in the Inquisition was awful, of course, but St. Dominic is someone who if Orthodox-RC reconciliation occurs, I would be prepared to venerate; he focused on non-violent vernacular preaching to try to convert the Cathars.  His successors apparently grew impatient with that and resorted to the sword and the stake-fire.
 

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rakovsky said:
The Klan may be a semi-esoteric organization in its origins. Their pointy hats might have an origin in the Spanish rituals of wearing similar robes, like the La Paz brotherhood? 


Seville


Seville. Notice the circle around the symmetrical cross.

I'm not going to post klan images here, but here's a link for comparison:
https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/enhanced/webdr03/2013/2/4/16/enhanced-buzz-18404-1360015130-10.jpg
Yeah, I'm sure a bunch of WASPy white supremacists looked to Catholic Spain for costume ideas. 
 

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Those KKK guys sure did like dem catliks!
 

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Rohzek said:
I'm just waiting for the accusations that these priests are guilty of cultural appropriation of KKK culture.
This legitimately made me LOL.
 

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wgw said:
PeterTheAleut said:
wgw said:
I thought Dominicans were supposed to wear a black cope over their white habits, hence the English nickname blackfriars, just as Carmelites wear a white cope over their brown habits, hence whitefriars or magpies, and Franciscans wear a grey cope and habit (hence greyfriars), or brown in the case of the Cappucins (hence cappucinos).

It seems like if he were dressed in the classical Dominican appearance he could have avoided this.  But a huge number of other religious groups wear purely white robes.  Norbertine fathers, for example.  Or Samaritans, and various Islamic clerics, and Sikhs.  And Ethiopian Orthodox wrap themselves in a white shroud.  We use white baptismal robes.

Also, I would fear they might think our Paschal processions are some sort of prelude to a cross burning, especially if our clergy are vested in white rather than the Russian red.
How do you know so much that you can tell a clergyman outside your own church what he's supposed to wear? ???
Well, because every icon of Dominicans and every historic photo I have of them shows them attired with a black cope.
So because you've seen a few pictures of Dominicans, you think you know everything about what they traditionally wear.
 

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Mor Ephrem said:
rakovsky said:
The Klan may be a semi-esoteric organization in its origins. Their pointy hats might have an origin in the Spanish rituals of wearing similar robes, like the La Paz brotherhood? 


Seville. Notice the circle around the symmetrical cross.

I'm not going to post klan images here, but here's a link for comparison:
https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/enhanced/webdr03/2013/2/4/16/enhanced-buzz-18404-1360015130-10.jpg
Yeah, I'm sure a bunch of WASPy white supremacists looked to Catholic Spain for costume ideas.
The Freemasons and some other esoteric groups use the "rosy cross" (rosicrusia) and associate with the Knights Templar, even though those elements are Catholic and the ritualists are Protestant in background. The KKK also has an esoteric aspect and was made in connection with secret societies.
John Lester would boast about the occult-like power of the mysterious name, "There was a weird potency in the very name Ku KLux Klan", he said.... They also created mysterious sounding titles that assigned a job to each of the six men... J. Kennedy was Grand Magi...
They Called Themselves the K.K.K.:
By Susan Campbell Bartoletti
the Ku Klux Klan appropriated from Spanish Holy Week the costume with its long hooded robe and two slits for eyes to hide the identity of the wearer.
Pagan Spain, Richard Wright, Publisher Univ. Press of Mississippi, 1957(Segregation era book)

The image of witches and wizards in pointed hats probably comes from this Celtic/Druidic root...  It's doubtful however that the Klan in 1870 knew anything about the Nazarenos. It's far more probable that the inspiration for the pointed hat came from the fact that  the dreaded exectioners of the Spanish Inquisition wore them, in drawings from books that were common currency in the Sourth. These night riders wanted to inspire terror, so they unwittingly borrowed a symbol from cathlicism, a religion that they despised. Go figure.
Conspiracy Theories and Secret Societies For Dummies
By Christopher Hodapp, Alice Von Kannon
 

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http://www.cc.com/video-clips/7nnosh/chappelle-s-show--frontline----clayton-bigsby-pt--1---uncensored
 

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I've read that the John Birch Society deliberately modeled itself after communist organizations; it was a "beat them by emulating them" mindset. The KKK actually did draw some inspiration for how it was run from Catholicism, despite (or perhaps because of) the Klan's hatred of it.

More recently we have people like Anders Breivik citing Al-Qaeda and jihadism as influences.
 

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Mor Ephrem said:
http://www.cc.com/video-clips/7nnosh/chappelle-s-show--frontline----clayton-bigsby-pt--1---uncensored
A real classic! LOL!
 

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Mor Ephrem said:
http://www.cc.com/video-clips/7nnosh/chappelle-s-show--frontline----clayton-bigsby-pt--1---uncensored
Chappelle at his peak, lol classic first couple seasons
 
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