These movements are very marginal and largely limited to the US.So's the robust young minority using the traditional Latin Mass, etc.
Yes, and in my own opinion this isn't ideal... On the other hand, there are Novus Ordo masses in Latin sometimes. The real issue is the heresy of trilingualism, which Vatican II ended.Orthodox churches often use liturgical languages.
Yes, but it's still an outlier from all the other Apostolic liturgies that was good to correct.It's older than the two Byzantine Rite anaphoras.
Ethnocultural triumphalism. On Orthodoxy's terms the traditional Roman Rite doesn't need correcting other than the filioque.Yes, but it's [no descending epiclesis] still an outlier from all the other Apostolic liturgies that was good to correct.
Indeed. The ascending Epiclesis of the Roman Canon:I thought there was an epiclesis in the ancient rites.
Thank you. I was sure I had read that fact, but it's good to see the actual words. At what point did it fall into disuse?Indeed. The ascending Epiclesis of the Roman Canon:
In humble prayer we ask you, almighty God: command that these gifts be borne by the hands of your holy Angel to your altar on high in the sight of your divine majesty, so that all of us, who through this participation at the altar receive the most holy Body and Blood of your Son, may be filled with every grace and heavenly blessing.
It didn’t. In some Western Rite churches the Descending Epiclesis from the Liturgy of St John Chrysostom has been added right before Ascending one in the Roman Canon even though Orthodox Saints like St Germanus and St Simeon the Theologian understood the Roman Canon as having an Epiclesis. There is a ROCOR monastery in Germany that celebrates the Roman Mass without the Byzantine interpolation.Thank you. I was sure I had read that fact, but it's good to see the actual words. At what point did it fall into disuse?
On the East side, we sing polyphonies from the Russian or Greek liturgy (hymns, troparia, antiphons from the transcription and translation work carried out by the Abbey of Chevetogne). On the Western side, we draw above all from the “Choral Liturgy of the People of God” of Father André Gouzes o.p. which are recent compositions, but whose melodies draw their inspiration from a whole ancient heritage: Gregorian, choirs, traditional songs ...