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Asteriktos said:
An F?  Seriously? :eek: :angel:  I think you need to hook up with a tutor my friend!
Speaking from current personal experience, sometimes a tutor isn't enough. Right now I think a lobotomy is the only thing that would help me.  :laugh:

I've spent hours studying (with and without a tutor!), and it's just not sinking in.

To put this in perspective, I'm getting all A's and B's in all of my other classes. It is only Math that I am failing.

My family keeps saying "Well you can't be strong in everything." Unfortunately, the Dean of the College doesn't see it that way when it comes to awarding degrees. So Vzldrb, I feel your pain!  :laugh:
 

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HandmaidenofGod said:
Asteriktos said:
An F?  Seriously? :eek: :angel:  I think you need to hook up with a tutor my friend!
Speaking from current personal experience, sometimes a tutor isn't enough. Right now I think a lobotomy is the only thing that would help me.  :laugh:

I've spent hours studying (with and without a tutor!), and it's just not sinking in.

To put this in perspective, I'm getting all A's and B's in all of my other classes. It is only Math that I am failing.

My family keeps saying "Well you can't be strong in everything." Unfortunately, the Dean of the College doesn't see it that way when it comes to awarding degrees. So Vzldrb, I feel your pain!  :laugh:
Yes, exactly!

I am doing great in my other three classes as well: Psychology 140 (I did a paper on Altered States of Consciousness and therapy via flotation tanks - an easy A), CIS 105 (Simple computer stuff, but then we have some rather old people who havent used a computer before, practically... and we had to do group projects), and Art 101.

I love my art class so much, that I may switch to Fine Arts, and still maybe take a Psychology class on the side for the credits...

But yeah, there you go!

(PS. Early-High Renaissance, Rococo, and the Baroque are just awesome!)
 

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HandmaidenofGod said:
Asteriktos said:
An F?  Seriously? :eek: :angel:  I think you need to hook up with a tutor my friend!
Speaking from current personal experience, sometimes a tutor isn't enough. Right now I think a lobotomy is the only thing that would help me.  :laugh:

I've spent hours studying (with and without a tutor!), and it's just not sinking in.
Not every tutor is the same since not all tutors can adapt to the learning style of their clients.  There are many myths as to why people are unable to learn math; perhaps you can see yourself in one or more of them?  From the University of Alabama:

Performance in mathematics courses often is undermined by faulty beliefs regarding the subject and one’s own abilities. These erroneous beliefs — or Math Myths — hamper both effort and self-confidence and should be examined in order to acquire a more productive approach to mathematics.
http://www.ctl.ua.edu/CTLStudyAids/StudySkillsFlyers/Miscellaneous/mathmyths.htm
 

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SolEX01 said:
HandmaidenofGod said:
Asteriktos said:
An F?  Seriously? :eek: :angel:  I think you need to hook up with a tutor my friend!
Speaking from current personal experience, sometimes a tutor isn't enough. Right now I think a lobotomy is the only thing that would help me.  :laugh:

I've spent hours studying (with and without a tutor!), and it's just not sinking in.
Not every tutor is the same since not all tutors can adapt to the learning style of their clients.  There are many myths as to why people are unable to learn math; perhaps you can see yourself in one or more of them?  From the University of Alabama:

Performance in mathematics courses often is undermined by faulty beliefs regarding the subject and one’s own abilities. These erroneous beliefs — or Math Myths — hamper both effort and self-confidence and should be examined in order to acquire a more productive approach to mathematics.
http://www.ctl.ua.edu/CTLStudyAids/StudySkillsFlyers/Miscellaneous/mathmyths.htm
Good website, thanks. I'll take a math course part time this fall, so I can focus on that alone.
 

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Vzldrb said:
I know that Math like that will be needed, but that's something I can cover in a simple class... I don't really need to know how to use trinomials in order to figure out a fiscal budget... lol.
Revenue = 5A+3B+C (a trinomial)

A = number of pastry trays sold @ $5 each
B = number of coffees sold @ $3 each
C = number of bottled waters sold @ $1 each

;)
 

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SolEX01 said:
Vzldrb said:
I know that Math like that will be needed, but that's something I can cover in a simple class... I don't really need to know how to use trinomials in order to figure out a fiscal budget... lol.
Revenue = 5A+3B+C (a trinomial)

A = number of pastry trays sold @ $5 each
B = number of coffees sold @ $3 each
C = number of bottled waters sold @ $1 each

;)
No, I mean like:

(3x + 2y + 4) + (7x(squared) - 4y +2) - (6x + (-7y) - 2)

and then you simplify all of the expressions, down to be something like:

7x(squared) + -3x + 4 or some such...

It can get crazier when you get them down to equal froms. I can;t think of an example, but the solution would be a jumble liek that and somehow you can break it down so it looks like:

2(3x+4y+1) + 7(3x+4y+1)

That is, where both of the second numbers are the reduced versions of longer, but equal multiplied expressions... and this is a MAT100 course!

I'm going insane :p
 

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serb1389 said:
Asteriktos said:
The only thing is, does your school require a math course to fulfill the liberal arts core, and would you be ok with that course? That could factor in as well. For example, at the school that I'm at now (and with my major) you are required to take a certain level algebra course or higher to graduate, though at some other schools I've looked at they only require a statistics course for the major I'd be in.  But in both cases, you have to take a math course of some type. Whatever happens, I hope you can go on to get a M.Div, that's a nice goal.
Yes yes my friend, alas even in theology one must encounter the mathematical sciences.  You never really escape it...trust me.  
It's funny math, to be sure.  1+1=1; 1+1+1=1; 300,000,000=1...
 

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Fr. George said:
serb1389 said:
Asteriktos said:
The only thing is, does your school require a math course to fulfill the liberal arts core, and would you be ok with that course? That could factor in as well. For example, at the school that I'm at now (and with my major) you are required to take a certain level algebra course or higher to graduate, though at some other schools I've looked at they only require a statistics course for the major I'd be in.  But in both cases, you have to take a math course of some type. Whatever happens, I hope you can go on to get a M.Div, that's a nice goal.
Yes yes my friend, alas even in theology one must encounter the mathematical sciences.  You never really escape it...trust me.  
It's funny math, to be sure.  1+1=1; 1+1+1=1; 300,000,000=1...
Father, bless.

Out of interest, do you have an M. Div? What advice can you give?
 

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Vzldrb said:
No, I mean like:

(3x + 2y + 4) + (7x(squared) - 4y +2) - (6x + (-7y) - 2)

and then you simplify all of the expressions, down to be something like:

7x(squared) + -3x + 4 or some such...
The joys of Mathematica 7 which can handle anything one throws at it (numerically and symbolically):

In[1]:= (3 x + 2 y + 4) + (7 x (squared) - 4 y + 2) - (6 x + (-7 y) - 2) (yes, that is exactly what you had in the previous post)

Out[1]= 8 - 3 x + 7 squared x + 5 y

Vzldrb said:
It can get crazier when you get them down to equal froms. I can;t think of an example, but the solution would be a jumble liek that and somehow you can break it down so it looks like:

2(3x+4y+1) + 7(3x+4y+1)

That is, where both of the second numbers are the reduced versions of longer, but equal multiplied expressions... and this is a MAT100 course!

I'm going insane :p
Not if one understands Mathematica.  ;)
 
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SolEX01 said:
HandmaidenofGod said:
Asteriktos said:
An F?  Seriously? :eek: :angel:  I think you need to hook up with a tutor my friend!
Speaking from current personal experience, sometimes a tutor isn't enough. Right now I think a lobotomy is the only thing that would help me.  :laugh:

I've spent hours studying (with and without a tutor!), and it's just not sinking in.
Not every tutor is the same since not all tutors can adapt to the learning style of their clients.  There are many myths as to why people are unable to learn math; perhaps you can see yourself in one or more of them?  From the University of Alabama:

Performance in mathematics courses often is undermined by faulty beliefs regarding the subject and one’s own abilities. These erroneous beliefs — or Math Myths — hamper both effort and self-confidence and should be examined in order to acquire a more productive approach to mathematics.
http://www.ctl.ua.edu/CTLStudyAids/StudySkillsFlyers/Miscellaneous/mathmyths.htm
I always find it interesting how many reasons people create when I tell them I'm struggling in Math.

Person A: "You're struggling in Math because you don't have a tutor."

Me: But I have a Tutor.

Person A: "Are you paying them? You should never pay a tutor."

Me: I'm not paying them. I go to the Student Learning Center and a woman from my parish who has her degree in Mathematics is helping me.

Person A: "That's the problem, you should pay a tutor. They will help you."

My favorite is my father's line. "How can you not understand this? This is math for idiots!"

Thanks Dad. Love you!  :-*

I don't understand why it's unacceptable to not be good in math? As the website indicated, no one thinks less of a person if they are not musically gifted, but because I suck at Math, I'm some kind of idiot?

Well, I have news for you. I'm great in music, but suck at Math.

Unfortunately, the Dean of the College doesn't care, and I need to pass the class to graduate. I'm going to take the class over in the summer, back to back with Statistics. Hopefully I'll do better.
 

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HandmaidenofGod said:
I don't understand why it's unacceptable to not be good in math? As the website indicated, no one thinks less of a person if they are not musically gifted, but because I suck at Math, I'm some kind of idiot?

Well, I have news for you. I'm great in music, but suck at Math.
Don't ask me to carry a tune.  ;)  At least at my College, Music 101 wasn't a requirement.  :)

HandmaidenofGod said:
Unfortunately, the Dean of the College doesn't care, and I need to pass the class to graduate. I'm going to take the class over in the summer, back to back with Statistics. Hopefully I'll do better.
Good luck to you....

 

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SolEX01 said:
Post 6,000.  What a letdown.   :-\
I'm afraid to ask... what were you expecting?  :D ;D :angel: Congrats, btw!
 

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HandmaidenofGod said:
SolEX01 said:
HandmaidenofGod said:
Asteriktos said:
An F?  Seriously? :eek: :angel:  I think you need to hook up with a tutor my friend!
Speaking from current personal experience, sometimes a tutor isn't enough. Right now I think a lobotomy is the only thing that would help me.  :laugh:

I've spent hours studying (with and without a tutor!), and it's just not sinking in.
Not every tutor is the same since not all tutors can adapt to the learning style of their clients.  There are many myths as to why people are unable to learn math; perhaps you can see yourself in one or more of them?  From the University of Alabama:

Performance in mathematics courses often is undermined by faulty beliefs regarding the subject and one’s own abilities. These erroneous beliefs — or Math Myths — hamper both effort and self-confidence and should be examined in order to acquire a more productive approach to mathematics.
http://www.ctl.ua.edu/CTLStudyAids/StudySkillsFlyers/Miscellaneous/mathmyths.htm
I always find it interesting how many reasons people create when I tell them I'm struggling in Math.

Person A: "You're struggling in Math because you don't have a tutor."

Me: But I have a Tutor.

Person A: "Are you paying them? You should never pay a tutor."

Me: I'm not paying them. I go to the Student Learning Center and a woman from my parish who has her degree in Mathematics is helping me.

Person A: "That's the problem, you should pay a tutor. They will help you."

My favorite is my father's line. "How can you not understand this? This is math for idiots!"

Thanks Dad. Love you!  :-*

I don't understand why it's unacceptable to not be good in math? As the website indicated, no one thinks less of a person if they are not musically gifted, but because I suck at Math, I'm some kind of idiot?

Well, I have news for you. I'm great in music, but suck at Math.

Unfortunately, the Dean of the College doesn't care, and I need to pass the class to graduate. I'm going to take the class over in the summer, back to back with Statistics. Hopefully I'll do better.
That's what my mom said, too!

Then again, my test was multiple choice... and I tried plugging the answer in, really!
 

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SolEX01 said:
HandmaidenofGod said:
I don't understand why it's unacceptable to not be good in math? As the website indicated, no one thinks less of a person if they are not musically gifted, but because I suck at Math, I'm some kind of idiot?

Well, I have news for you. I'm great in music, but suck at Math.
Don't ask me to carry a tune.   ;)  At least at my College, Music 101 wasn't a requirement.   :)

HandmaidenofGod said:
Unfortunately, the Dean of the College doesn't care, and I need to pass the class to graduate. I'm going to take the class over in the summer, back to back with Statistics. Hopefully I'll do better.
Good luck to you....
I wish it was! I just recorded an album, and U'll make a new thread/post for it. It's guitar/instrumental. :p

ANYWAYS... Yeah, uh. I'll try harder next time. Go slower. Or something.
 

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Vzldrb said:
I wish it was! I just recorded an album, and U'll make a new thread/post for it. It's guitar/instrumental. :p
Your confusing statements have caught my attention. An album you say?  :)
 

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Ahh, 2AM, and I'm still up. Another sleepless night, mayhaps? Yes, I think so. But for how long will I sit in front of this darn computer waiting for people to post, when I could be off reading or doing something else constructive. Ahh well, at least I'm also listening to music while I wait.

"When a man lies, he murders some part of the world
These are the pale deaths which men miscall their lives
All this I cannot bear to witness any longer
Cannot the kingdom of salvation, take me home?" - Cliff Burton
 

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Asteriktos said:
Ahh, 2AM, and I'm still up. Another sleepless night, mayhaps? Yes, I think so. But for how long will I sit in front of this darn computer waiting for people to post, when I could be off reading or doing something else constructive. Ahh well, at least I'm also listening to music while I wait.

"When a man lies, he murders some part of the world
These are the pale deaths which men miscall their lives
All this I cannot bear to witness any longer
Cannot the kingdom of salvation, take me home?" - Cliff Burton
haha I can't sleep either, wait I don't want to sleep I'm enjoying my time off.  I guess I'll sleep really hard tomorrow night but until then I'm up, you can't buy back the hours you're not working for the man.
 
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