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So, I attended Divine Liturgy in Brasov yesterday and I honestly can't see why some protestant missionaries describe orthodox worship as inactive. It was some of the most active worship I have ever seen. People were crossing themselves, kneeling (is it normal for romanians to kneel on Sundays?) and walking around, venerations everything. And there was this beautiful choir and many people were singing along.
 

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LOL @ your .sig.

When I saw your profile nonsense yesterday, I was like: will Achronos ever learn?

I stopped asking if the people around here will.
Out of respect for Liza, since I like her, I removed it.

Heroin is great.
I appreciate you removing it.  I'm all for keeping peace on the Forum.

Heroin is not great.  No drug, that is used to merely cloud your thoughts and distract you from your real life is ever great.
Liza,

You can sleep well knowing I don't drink, do drugs, smoke cigs, anything. And never will start it up. I was referring to the song.

I'd love for norm to laugh at the anti-drug campaign
 

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Ansgar said:
So, I attended Divine Liturgy in Brasov yesterday and I honestly can't see why some protestant missionaries describe orthodox worship as inactive. It was some of the most active worship I have ever seen. People were crossing themselves, kneeling (is it normal for romanians to kneel on Sundays?) and walking around, venerations everything. And there was this beautiful choir and many people were singing along.
Dude, you don't know protestant till you've seen tag team (literally) evangelical preacher who get so worked up they truly do need to take breaks every 15 minutes or so.

Cage matches with backsliders ain't to fought on your lonesome.
 

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Achronos said:
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LOL @ your .sig.

When I saw your profile nonsense yesterday, I was like: will Achronos ever learn?

I stopped asking if the people around here will.
Out of respect for Liza, since I like her, I removed it.

Heroin is great.
I appreciate you removing it.  I'm all for keeping peace on the Forum.

Heroin is not great.  No drug, that is used to merely cloud your thoughts and distract you from your real life is ever great.
Liza,

You can sleep well knowing I don't drink, do drugs, smoke cigs, anything. And never will start it up. I was referring to the song.

I'd love for norm to laugh at the anti-drug campaign
OK.  Thank God.  I was worried.

Too many young people ruin their lives while trying to find a "temporary" escape.  ;)

Keep up the good work!!!
 

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I'm having somewhat of a bad day today  :-\
I've sensed that.  If I were in Holland, I'd invite you to your favorite pub and buy you dinner and a beer or two or three.
Thanks  :)

I guess it's because of the storm. I don't like storms at all. They're depressing.
 

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Cyrillic said:
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I'm having somewhat of a bad day today  :-\
I've sensed that.  If I were in Holland, I'd invite you to your favorite pub and buy you dinner and a beer or two or three.
Thanks  :)

I guess it's because it's storming. I don't like storms at all. They're depressing.
I, probably because I'm American ( ;D ;D), on the other hand, love a good storm--as long as it's not destructive, that is.
 

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J Michael said:
Cyrillic said:
J Michael said:
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I'm having somewhat of a bad day today  :-\
I've sensed that.  If I were in Holland, I'd invite you to your favorite pub and buy you dinner and a beer or two or three.
Thanks  :)

I guess it's because it's storming. I don't like storms at all. They're depressing.
I, probably because I'm American ( ;D ;D), on the other hand, love a good storm--as long as it's not destructive, that is.
I tend to like Americans when I'm not cranky.

Aren't you afraid that your rock will get hit by a falling tree when it storms?  :)
 

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Cyrillic said:
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Cyrillic said:
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I'm having somewhat of a bad day today  :-\
I've sensed that.  If I were in Holland, I'd invite you to your favorite pub and buy you dinner and a beer or two or three.
Thanks  :)

I guess it's because it's storming. I don't like storms at all. They're depressing.
I, probably because I'm American ( ;D ;D), on the other hand, love a good storm--as long as it's not destructive, that is.
I tend to like Americans when I'm not cranky.

Aren't you afraid that your rock will get hit by a falling tree when it storms?  :)
It's a big, strong rock.  ;)
 

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Just got my 77 dollar headphones.

Dat precision. Dat vocal reproduction.

Wow I just wasted 2K on audio equipment?

****

EDIT: These things are so precise, I don't think I can handle it too much. Dat fatigue.

Razor sharp, so crisp. My other really good headphones are a bit more laidback.

Wonderful bodied bass, good grief.

Got my binaural track playing.

HOLY SMOKES THAT 3D IMAGING.

My soundcard can't even output 176400Hz. Lulz@8467kpbs. Time to rip and throw it on my player @192Khz.
 

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A drug song that actually makes present what it is like to use the drug its going on and on about. Worst drug song? Cocaine by that hack.
JJ Cale ain't a hack.
 

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Do you believe in life after love?

What am I supposed to do, sit around and wait for you well I ca(auto tune)aaaan't do tha(auto tune)aaat. There's no turning back. I need ti(auto tune)iime to move on, I neeed a lo(auto tune)oove that feels strong.

Cuz I got time to think it through, and maybe I'm too good for you oh
 

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Can I say that people hiding their online statuses really irks me?

I just want to know who's on at any given time. Why you gotta be in the shadows like that?
 

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Cyrillic said:
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Wow I just wasted 2K on audio equipment?
If you paid $2000 for audio equipment and you're not a dj, then yes, you did waste a lot of money.
Uhhh, I know people with a turntable, a tube amp, and a set of electrostatic speakers which would nearly impossible to buy today for less than $30k. And it is worth every nickel.

The thing is is that you have never heard a decent recording of anything much less a decent system for listening to it.

And really when your record collection starts approaching in value the tune of $1M, what's thousands to listen to it?

I don't go in for achronos' headphone trip, the staging is non existent in my opinion and fatigue much greater. Even if I did opt for headphone I would not be seeking studio phones with their even more fatiguing reproduction of every sonic detail flattened in my brain.

Really, if you throw a few k now into the right set up it will like beat inflation, so what's the big deal?
 

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orthonorm said:
The thing is is that you have never heard a decent recording of anything much less a decent system for listening to it.
How much better could it sound for 30k? I have a $35 headset and it works just fine.

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And really when your record collection starts approaching in value the tune of $1M, what's thousands to listen to it?
Why would someone spend a million dollars on records?
 

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Cyrillic said:
orthonorm said:
The thing is is that you have never heard a decent recording of anything much less a decent system for listening to it.
How much better could it sound for 30k? I have a $35 headset and it works just fine.

orthonorm said:
And really when your record collection starts approaching in value the tune of $1M, what's thousands to listen to it?
Why would someone spend a million dollars on records?
I have no headset and it works just fine, too. :D

The only reason that I (in my infinite ignorance) can think of that someone would spend $1million on records (presumably this would be over a period of some time) is that they have too much money and probably too much spare time to listen to it all.  But...what do I know?
 

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A parish priest getting down to the nitty-gritty of afterlife finances somewhere in rural Wallachia, back in 2010:



CONTRIBUTE YOUR OWN BRICK!

Right-believing Christians,

In accordance with European legislation, us Romanians will also have to bring our dead to (funeral) CHAPELS on the very day of their decease, where family and relatives will keep vigil over them for 3 days and nights.

In a chapel corner the family will be able to provide a soft drink, a coffee, a sandwich, to honour the memory of the departed.
With the 2 billion [old] lei (aprox. 600.000 $) collected so far we have built around 80% of the chapel, but WE ARE OUT OF MONEY, because YOU HAVE NOT CONTRIBUTED!

Therefore, WE EITHER ABANDON THE WORK or, IF YOU CONTRIBUTE with at least 2 million lei (60 $) each family, we will be able to finish, consecrate and make it available for use this fall.

REMEMBER YOU WILL DIE TOO!

Parish priest M. DINCĂ, tel. 0723244483

The crisis goes by, life goes on, but DEATH spares no one!
 

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Romaios said:
I wonder if this is authentic - if it is, it's terribly funny. A parish priest getting down to the nitty-gritty of afterlife finances somewhere in rural Wallachia, back in 2010:



CONTRIBUTE YOUR OWN BRICK!

Right-believing Christians,

In accordance with European legislation, us Romanians will also have to bring our dead to (funeral) CHAPELS on the very day of their decease, where family and relatives will keep vigil over them for 3 days and nights.

In a chapel corner the family will be able to provide a soft drink, a coffee, a sandwich, to honour the memory of the departed.
With the 2 billion [old] lei (aprox. 600.000 $) collected so far we have built around 80% of the chapel, but WE ARE OUT OF MONEY, because YOU HAVE NOT CONTRIBUTED!

Therefore, WE EITHER ABANDON THE WORK or, IF YOU CONTRIBUTE with at least 2 million lei (60 $) each family, we will be able to finish, consecrate and make it available for use this fall.

REMEMBER YOU WILL DIE TOO!

Parish priest M. DINCĂ, tel. 0723244483

The crisis goes by, life goes on, but DEATH spares no one!
It is pretty funny.  Since he gives the phone #, you could try calling him to authenticate it.  Unless, of course, death has not spared him  ;D.
 

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Fr. George said:
If y'all keep us at an average of 703+ posts/day for the rest of October, this will be our first-ever 20,000+ post month.  It may be attainable (we've had a number of 750+ posting days in the last few months).
Well, this is most likely not going to happen.  The weak weekend killed the dream.  Need to post at a rate of approx. 1,000 posts/day (2,600 total posts) to attain.  Oh well, it'll happen eventually.
 

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J Michael said:
It is pretty funny.  Since he gives the phone #, you could try calling him to authenticate it.  Unless, of course, death has not spared him  ;D.
I just googled his name and the Father seems to be in trouble for his fund raising methods and embezzlement in the meantime... It's not funny all of a sudden - he seems to have gathered more than twice as much (1.500.000 $) for that funeral chapel alone... And it's no Sistine Chapel...

 
 

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J Michael said:
Cyrillic said:
orthonorm said:
The thing is is that you have never heard a decent recording of anything much less a decent system for listening to it.
How much better could it sound for 30k? I have a $35 headset and it works just fine.

orthonorm said:
And really when your record collection starts approaching in value the tune of $1M, what's thousands to listen to it?
Why would someone spend a million dollars on records?
I have no headset and it works just fine, too. :D

The only reason that I (in my infinite ignorance) can think of that someone would spend $1million on records (presumably this would be over a period of some time) is that they have too much money and probably too much spare time to listen to it all.  But...what do I know?
I didn't say they spent that much just their collection over time is worth that much.

Just like the hifi set up wasn't 10s of thousands when they bought it.

The collector's market can make certain consumer purchase not be total wastes of money.
 

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Eating glass is preferable to dealing with my local bell.

And people wonder why I am on Tmobile? Best customer service EVER.

Best.

If you have access to wifi, their limited network doesn't matter. And hey, they have a cell tower atop where I work as well.
 

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Romaios said:
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It is pretty funny.  Since he gives the phone #, you could try calling him to authenticate it.  Unless, of course, death has not spared him  ;D.
I just googled his name and the Father seems to be in trouble for his fund raising methods and embezzlement in the meantime... It's not funny all of a sudden - he seems to have gathered more than twice as much (1.200.000 $) for that funeral chapel alone...

   
Naughty boy...... :eek: ::)
 

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Fr. George said:
The weak weekend killed the dream. 
't is not our fault, father. The forum was down on saturday. The weather is getting colder so perhaps next month  :)
 

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Real talk.

The Beyerdynamic DT660 are the greatest headphones for Classical music. I am not even kidding. $146.55 on Amazon.

norm, I don't know how often you listen to Classical or if any right now.

And my opinion is backed by many, including one that has over 100K+ in audio equipment (DACs, Amps, etc) and has listened to all the best headphones on the planet (yes including the Senn Orpheus).

Buy it. And supposedly the HD800s were, but those are like $1500
 

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Uhhh, I know people with a turntable, a tube amp, and a set of electrostatic speakers which would nearly impossible to buy today for less than $30k. And it is worth every nickel.
The best electrostatic headphones in production are the Stax SR-009. $5K for the phones, about ~1600 for the Blue Hawaii amp to pair.

Also, I love old analog equipment BTW. The warmness, everything. If I was a recording musician, everything I would do would be in analog.

I don't go in for achronos' headphone trip, the staging is non existent in my opinion and fatigue much greater.
The thing with these cans are more for recording and producing. Maybe mastering, but its a stretch. You have a flat frequency response and only hearing what supposedly the pros are doing in the studio. I mean most artists in the studios use em, engineers, DJs, TV producers, etc.

They are pretty much the standard.

The bianural stuff sounds really great, but I almost prefer my open cans just a smidge.

Even if I did opt for headphone I would not be seeking studio phones with their even more fatiguing reproduction of every sonic detail flattened in my brain.
LOL that's why I have my other cans for purely for enjoying listening.

However these are so analytical in the signature that I prefer them sometimes when I want to pull certain details out of a recording.

I ain't playing Louis Armstrong out of them. Too many pops and scratches, but obviously look at when those tracks were recorded and on what machines...and how they were "remastered".

But I really am in love with my new headphones. Man some of these productions I am listening to are so layered that my other cans can't get.
 

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orthonorm and Opus118

Real talk.

The Beyerdynamic DT660 are the greatest headphones for Classical music. I am not even kidding. $146.55 on Amazon.

norm, I don't know how often you listen to Classical or if any right now.

And my opinion is backed by many, including one that has over 100K+ in audio equipment (DACs, Amps, etc) and has listened to all the best headphones on the planet (yes including the Senn Orpheus).

Buy it. And supposedly the HD800s were, but those are like $1500
Dude, I really don't like headphones. The staging is screwy. And the details are too forward. I would rather have a decent single horn than headphones.

You don't have to convince me, I know you are insane to know as close the right answer is going to be in situation like this.

I just don't buy what the recording engineer heard is the gold standard of audition.

Heck, after LSD, some things will never be the same no matter what I use to listen to music. 911 is a Joke is now nothing but laughter forward. What are you going to do?
 

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Achronos said:
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Uhhh, I know people with a turntable, a tube amp, and a set of electrostatic speakers which would nearly impossible to buy today for less than $30k. And it is worth every nickel.
The best electrostatic headphones in production are the Stax SR-009. $5K for the phones, about ~1600 for the Blue Hawaii amp to pair.

Also, I love old analog equipment BTW. The warmness, everything. If I was a recording musician, everything I would do would be in analog.

The thing is is that you have never heard a decent recording of anything much less a decent system for listening to it.

I don't go in for achronos' headphone trip, the staging is non existent in my opinion and fatigue much greater.
The thing with these cans are more for recording and producing. Maybe mastering, but its a stretch. You have a flat frequency response and only hearing what supposedly the pros are doing in the studio. I mean most artists in the studios use em, engineers, DJs, TV producers, etc.

They are pretty much the standard.

The biannual stuff sounds really great, but I almost prefer my open cans just a smidge.

Even if I did opt for headphone I would not be seeking studio phones with their even more fatiguing reproduction of every sonic detail flattened in my brain.
LOL that's why I have my other cans for purely for enjoying listening.

However these are so analytical in the signature that I prefer them sometimes when I want to pull certain details out of a recording.

I ain't playing Louis Armstrong out of them. Too many pops and scratches, but obviously look at when those tracks were recorded and on what machines...and how they were "remastered".

But I really am in love with my new headphones. Man some of these productions I am listening to are so layered that my other cans can't get.
Let me know after a month.

They ain't even broken in.
 

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How much better could it sound for 30k? I have a $35 headset and it works just fine.
When you go from hearing sounds that come out of a narrow tin can, to literally being on stage with the musicians...we'll talk.

Here's my method on buying anything electronics: more bang for your buck.

So for example if I bought a 120GB SSD at $120 bucks, that's $1 per GB. 240GB SSD at $420 is ~$.57 per GB. Video cards it can get a little more trickier as far as how much you can overclock and push the voltage, what performance you are pulling in comparison to the next higher card.

Headphones, well I can only say a few things. What sound signature? Laid back? Over-analytical? Brighter highs? More extended lower end? Thick mids?

Since I listen to pretty much all genres of music, I had to compromise slightly to make sure all of them sound great. However my headphones knocked the price down to $699 which was a steal. It is pretty much the best value right now as a genre "master". Dark headphones though and the treble does roll off...I wish it sparkled to be honest.

Also source is important. You ain't going to get good sound coming from an iPod. My cans need an amp.

Even these Sony's I just bought, I can't even get my SanDisk Clip+ to output enough power to drive them, so I have to carry with me a portable headphone amp. And really 63 ohms, and still not enough juice? It's bizarre. I think my player is busted.

Then the quality of the song files. Lossless or bust. 320kbps is about the least I can accept, but only for recordings I can't find lossless for.

So you have two things to consider, headphones and the source. At the most basic. Then you can split hairs all you want. Like getting an 18" Optical cable cause it sounds better than 3", 6", 10" etc.
 

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Dude, I really don't like headphones. The staging is screwy. And the details are too forward. I would rather have a decent single horn than headphones.
Then get some laid back cans, seriously. Yes the Sonys are very detail forward oriented. My more expensive ones, not so much.

I think you would do better with an open can. I know I won't convince you, I remember you telling me about a guy you knew who had some ridiculous tube amps.

Once you hear stuff like that, getting something I have is too compromising.

I just don't buy what the recording engineer heard is the gold standard of audition.
And it's not, its merely a gimmick. I'd rather have a flat frequency on these Sonys just because I can hear exactly what the engineer mastered.

The problem with that is not all recordings are equal. Some have poor frequencies, others are mastered superbly. Even on the Sonys I still have to manually EQ certain tracks to play as I think they should sound.

Heck, after LSD, some things will never be the same no matter what I use to listen to music. 911 is a Joke is now nothing but laughter forward. What are you going to do?
If I knew what music sounded like on certain drugs, I'd be an addict. I am happy accepting my sober mediocre ears lol.
 

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Achronos said:
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How much better could it sound for 30k? I have a $35 headset and it works just fine.
When you go from hearing sounds that come out of a narrow tin can, to literally being on stage with the musicians...we'll talk.

Here's my method on buying anything electronics: more bang for your buck.

So for example if I bought a 120GB SSD at $120 bucks, that's $1 per GB. 240GB SSD at $420 is ~$.57 per GB. Video cards it can get a little more trickier as far as how much you can overclock and push the voltage, what performance you are pulling in comparison to the next higher card.

Headphones, well I can only say a few things. What sound signature? Laid back? Over-analytical? Brighter highs? More extended lower end? Thick mids?

Since I listen to pretty much all genres of music, I had to compromise slightly to make sure all of them sound great. However my headphones knocked the price down to $699 which was a steal. It is pretty much the best value right now as a genre "master". Dark headphones though and the treble does roll off...I wish it sparkled to be honest.

Also source is important. You ain't going to get good sound coming from an iPod. My cans need an amp.

Even these Sony's I just bought, I can't even get my SanDisk Clip+ to output enough power to drive them, so I have to carry with me a portable headphone amp. And really 63 ohms, and still not enough juice? It's bizarre. I think my player is busted.

Then the quality of the song files. Lossless or bust. 320kbps is about the least I can accept, but only for recordings I can't find lossless for.

So you have two things to consider, headphones and the source. At the most basic. Then you can split hairs all you want. Like getting an 18" Optical cable cause it sounds better than 3", 6", 10" etc.
Dude you missing my major point and the poor perfectionists always turn to be phonephiles and delude themselves.

SOUND STAGE. You don't have one.

When you are able to throw a 4' x 4' x ~2'? stage in front of you with headphones let me know.
 
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