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I am staying in a hotel this week, and I have come to the realization that I want a hotel ice maker installed in my house.

Is this possible?
Yes.  Talk to a plumber to get a new water line.
 

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Does anyone have any experience about Samsonite S' Cure bags? Any downsides?
 

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Flying Kryptonite! Anyway, the dude who was spamming fish and chips :police: on everyone's threads would be more than welcome if he did his stuff just on this thread.
 

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Do hotel room door with the key cards still work in a power outage or if I leave my room is that it and I would be locked out of my hot but private dark hotel room?

Sleeping in the rental car during.a.massivd thunder storm holds little appeat
 

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DeniseDenise said:
Do hotel room door with the key cards still work in a power outage or if I leave my room is that it and I would be locked out of my hot but private dark hotel room?

Sleeping in the rental car during.a.massivd thunder storm holds little appeat
I don't know for sure, but the sensor boxes might have battery back-up for safety reasons, the way that hard-wired smoke alarms do.
 

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LBK said:
DeniseDenise said:
Do hotel room door with the key cards still work in a power outage or if I leave my room is that it and I would be locked out of my hot but private dark hotel room?

Sleeping in the rental car during.a.massivd thunder storm holds little appeat
I don't know for sure, but the sensor boxes might have battery back-up for safety reasons, the way that hard-wired smoke alarms do.
You are right. The hotel just verified the key cards will still work

They also issued me two glow sticks so I can have a rave
 

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So, I finally got my liturgical library collection completed, consisting of the Anglican Use Gradual, Graduale Romanum, Simple English Propers, Liber Usualis, Graduale Simplex, By Flowing Waters Gradual, Antiphonae Missarum Mediolanensis, Kyriale, St. Dunstan's Plainsong Psalter, Dearmer's The Parson's Handbook, Fortescue's Ceremonies of the Roman Rite, the Roman Ritual 1961 in English-Latin, The Book of Common Prayer 1662, Liturgy of the Hours, the Little Office of the BVM, The Use of Sarum, Ordinal and Tonal, Byzantine Daily Prayer, The Festal Menaion, Octoechos, Psallite Sapienter, and the Parish Book of Psalms. I think if my priest or organist ever needs a reference, my library will suffice.  ;D
 

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Now, I am starting to look into aquiring a Prius.
 

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USPS marked something I was supposed to receive today as "Delivered," but it was never in fact delivered. Great.
That happened to me last week. So I emailed the company I ordered my product from, and told them I had never received it. A couple days later, someone emailed me and said, "We're sending another right out to you!" So I told my husband (conversationally) that I was receiving a replacement, and he said, "What? I have that package. It's in the closet. I thought I told you." So I had to quickly email them back and be like "JUST KIDDING!"

The End of the World's Most Boring Story
Well, sadly it doesn't look like it's going to be that convenient. It's starting to seem that either the mailman simply lost my package somewhere, or it was stolen out of the mailbox itself. In either of those cases, I lose out since I got it through ebay from a regular person (i.e. not a store that uses ebay). If the USPS investigation does manage to find it though that's great, but it seems extremely unlikely at this point.
 

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Nephi said:
ZealousZeal said:
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USPS marked something I was supposed to receive today as "Delivered," but it was never in fact delivered. Great.
That happened to me last week. So I emailed the company I ordered my product from, and told them I had never received it. A couple days later, someone emailed me and said, "We're sending another right out to you!" So I told my husband (conversationally) that I was receiving a replacement, and he said, "What? I have that package. It's in the closet. I thought I told you." So I had to quickly email them back and be like "JUST KIDDING!"

The End of the World's Most Boring Story
Well, sadly it doesn't look like it's going to be that convenient. It's starting to seem that either the mailman simply lost my package somewhere, or it was stolen out of the mailbox itself. In either of those cases, I lose out since I got it through ebay from a regular person (i.e. not a store that uses ebay). If the USPS investigation does manager to find it though that's great, but it seems extremely unlikely at this point.
:( lord have mercy
 

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If only packages could be teleported rather than relying on increasingly disgruntled delivery employees (USPS, FedEX, UPS, et al.).

To Amazon - invest in teleportation technologies rather than drones.

Edit: Teleportation would put the airlines out of business if people could teleport to their destinations.  I don't know how customs would be handled for teleporters....
 

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If only packages could be teleported rather than relying on increasingly disgruntled delivery employees (USPS, FedEX, UPS, et al.).

To Amazon - invest in teleportation technologies rather than drones.

Edit: Teleportation would put the airlines out of business if people could teleport to their destinations.  I don't know how customs would be handled for teleporters....
I feel like for teleporters, there would be restrictions placed on them.

Example, you can transport from LA to one right on the Peace Bridge, go through customs, and then use one on the Canadian side to transport to say, Vancouver.

Or have designated places, say JFK turned into a teleportation centre, where you would need to clear customs before you were allowed to use the teleporter, like they have for planes. or whenever planes do, but I dont fly so I am not too sure.

And have the offical ones blocked from doing anything besides that. Wont stop the problem for good, but you can only do the same for planes too
 

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vamrat said:
...followed a few days later by Germany.
Actually, IIRC, we never declared war on Germany but Hitler for some reason declared war on the United States a few days after the Pearl Harbor incident, which was a stupid move when you think about it. What if the US only went against Japan and stayed out of the European theater?

But, to answer the question, I think Korea was the last country we declared war on.
 

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JamesR said:
vamrat said:
...followed a few days later by Germany.
Actually, IIRC, we never declared war on Germany but Hitler for some reason declared war on the United States a few days after the Pearl Harbor incident, which was a stupid move when you think about it. What if the US only went against Japan and stayed out of the European theater?
Roosevelt wanted that war.

Otherwise, I suppose that the commies would have taken over most of Europe. There would have been coups in Switzerland and a war in Spain. Don't know how the Cold War would have played out with Stalin in control of Western Europe.
 

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JamesR said:
vamrat said:
...followed a few days later by Germany.
Actually, IIRC, we never declared war on Germany but Hitler for some reason declared war on the United States a few days after the Pearl Harbor incident, which was a stupid move when you think about it. What if the US only went against Japan and stayed out of the European theater?

But, to answer the question, I think Korea was the last country we declared war on.
We did not declare war on Korea.  It was classified as a "military engagement" authorized through the UN Security Council
 

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Cyrillic said:
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vamrat said:
...followed a few days later by Germany.
Actually, IIRC, we never declared war on Germany but Hitler for some reason declared war on the United States a few days after the Pearl Harbor incident, which was a stupid move when you think about it. What if the US only went against Japan and stayed out of the European theater?
Roosevelt wanted that war.

Otherwise, I suppose that the commies would have taken over most of Europe. There would have been coups in Switzerland and a war in Spain. Don't know how the Cold War would have played out with Stalin in control of Western Europe.
You think if the Axis won the war, that there'd be a Cold War between America and Nazi Germany with America becoming increasingly more Left winged and granting Civil Rights earlier in order to be different from the Rightist, eugenist Nazis?
 

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JamesR said:
Cyrillic said:
JamesR said:
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...followed a few days later by Germany.
Actually, IIRC, we never declared war on Germany but Hitler for some reason declared war on the United States a few days after the Pearl Harbor incident, which was a stupid move when you think about it. What if the US only went against Japan and stayed out of the European theater?
Roosevelt wanted that war.

Otherwise, I suppose that the commies would have taken over most of Europe. There would have been coups in Switzerland and a war in Spain. Don't know how the Cold War would have played out with Stalin in control of Western Europe.
You think if the Axis won the war, that there'd be a Cold War between America and Nazi Germany with America becoming increasingly more Left winged and granting Civil Rights earlier in order to be different from the Rightist, eugenist Nazis?
Unlikely. Nazis self-identified and were identified by all as a branch of the left. Communists called them right-winged, but that doesn't mean anything since "right-winged" is just a curse word for anyone they don't like. Remember that Jews were hated first because they were wealthy capitalists, not the opposite.

The only difference from National Socialism and the International Communism is the adjective. Nazis had no shame in saying that Arian superiority was the best vehicle to bring about a leftist utopia, while Soviets pretended to want a kind of international collective, while they really wanted just to be the ruling elite just like the Nazi.
 

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JamesR said:
Cyrillic said:
JamesR said:
vamrat said:
...followed a few days later by Germany.
Actually, IIRC, we never declared war on Germany but Hitler for some reason declared war on the United States a few days after the Pearl Harbor incident, which was a stupid move when you think about it. What if the US only went against Japan and stayed out of the European theater?
Roosevelt wanted that war.

Otherwise, I suppose that the commies would have taken over most of Europe. There would have been coups in Switzerland and a war in Spain. Don't know how the Cold War would have played out with Stalin in control of Western Europe.
You think if the Axis won the war, that there'd be a Cold War between America and Nazi Germany with America becoming increasingly more Left winged and granting Civil Rights earlier in order to be different from the Rightist, eugenist Nazis?
Eugenics didn't have a bad name until well after WWII. It was quite popular in certain circles in the early 20th century. The adherents of the Fabian Society  (like George Bernard Shaw) in the UK and people like Margaret Sanger in the US were very much into eugenics. It was seen as progress and a hot new thing. This kind of 'progress' was mainly opposed by old-fashioned, mainly Roman Catholic men like G.K. Chesterton. Social Democratic Sweden, for example, continued its eugenetics program well into the 70s. Eugenetics wasn't seen as being a horrible crime against humanity, as we see it now. Eugenics certainly wasn't something that was popular on the right, it was a left-wing thing back then.

The American left of the day wasn't any less racist than the right. Probably they were even more racist. The entire former Confederacy voted for FDR and his New Deal, while the more tolerant New Englanders disproportionally voted for Hoover and Alf Langdon. If you wanted civil rights for blacks the worst thing you could do was vote for the left. That's where the KKK was.

Nazis weren't really 'rightists', but that would depend on your definition of the right and the left. If you'd go with the original definition - monarchists, classical conservatives and other supporters of the ancién régime on the right and socialists, liberals and other revolutionaries on the left - the nazis would qualify as leftists. The nazis and the fascists were self-consiously revolutionary, often adopted revisionist or corporatist economic policies, hated free markets, overthrew, made powerless or didn't restore the traditional government institutions of their countries, were proponents of an all-powerful state out of which nothing could legitimately exist (churches, youth groups, labour unions etc. in Nazi Germany were, as far as possible, abolished in favour of an official, state-controlled national socialist one), didn't support traditional morality (euthanasia and abortion were very popular with the nazis - if only it were done to the right people) and antagonized Christians (look up Cardinal Clemens August Graf von Galen and Dietrich Bonhoeffer).

Now that I've answered some of your faulty assumptions I'll try to answer your question  :)

Hitler, before the war was often seen by the establishment (Chamberville Tories, Americans on both sides of the aisle, the French Popular Front and continental Christian Democrat) as a useful fool. They looked down upon that demagogue and probably despised him, but their real enemy was bolshevism. They wanted to destroy the Soviet Union, and they wanted to use Hitler to achieve that aim. Perhaps if Hitler had destroyed the Soviet Union that might have somewhat appeased the West. America would have probably reverted back to isolationism in case of an Axis victory. In fact, at the end of WWII America did nearly go back to isolationism. American Liberals thought that the Cold War could be prevented by not insulting Uncle Joe and supporting the United Nations, the right (like Sen. Robert Taft) wanted America to simply mind its own business. When Churchill proposed a renewed Anglo-American alliance against Russia in his 1946 Fulton Adress he was dismissed by both sides of the aisle. America would certainly have become isolationist in case of a loss in WWII; they wouldn't have payed too much attention to what happened abroad.

Besides, the west didn't really know about the holocaust, or at least the magnitude of the holocaust, until the Allies walked into the concentration camps. If Hitler would have won the war perhaps the allies wouldn't have figured out what happened until years later. Even if they would have done so as early, the Americans wouldn't (and, in fact, didn't) link the holocaust to their own treatment of minorities, and not without reason - refusing blacks at a lunchcounter is hardly comparible to butchering millions of Jews and gypsies. As far as I know, not even the leaders of the Civil Rights Movement compared segregation to the holocaust. Therefore, it seems unlikely that civil rights would have been granted earlier if Germany had won WWII.

This might better go in the Politics forum rather than Other Topics. But nothing in my answer was about contemporary politics, so perhaps it can stay.
 

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Yeah, on the one hand, it seems reasonable to say that if Germany had pulled off a victorious peace in Europe, before America joined the fight, we wouldn't have cared much at all. Europe would have been left to sort itself out while we worried about Communism. I can remember reading an American children's book from the early '40s, from a very mainstream publisher, that described Hitler as a new Napoleon and had several flattering pictures of him in a friendly mood.

On the other hand, it seems clear in hindsight that powerful elements in America were spoiling to expand influence. Otherwise, why would we have cared about Communism as early as we did? Or been officially threatening Germany before they declared war? Not to mention our uncalled-for exploits in China and the Philippines (although that was long before Roosevelt). So I think if "Hitler had won" we might in fact have had a Cold War with Western Europe. It would depend on who -- fascism or communism -- became the biggest dog for us to fight. America was in the process of changing.
 

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Porter ODoran said:
Otherwise, why would we have cared about Communism as early as we did?
America didn't, until the Berlin Blockade and the Coup in Czechoslovakia in 1948. Then very few could deny that Joe wanted to turn the world Red.

 

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Cyrillic said:
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Otherwise, why would we have cared about Communism as early as we did?
America didn't, until the Berlin Blockade and the Coup in Czechoslovakia in 1948. Then very few could deny that Joe wanted to turn the world Red.
Even if that is entirely true, such actions were yet far from threatening us directly. Traditional America wouldn't have cared.

[Edited to add:] Vicious anti-communist rhetoric in America went back long before that, though, so I'm not sure I agree. You yourself seem to have been implying that America did not care about Hitler but about Communism in the early '40s.
 

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Isn't there a whole forum to discuss politics in?
We're discussing history.
Was there any real home-grown fascist movement in the Netherlands?
Yes, but Dutch society had developed in such a way that it never became popular, and never could have become popular.
 

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America inherited so much from Amsterdam of which we'll probably never be aware (and I'm not talking about land and cities).
 

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America inherited so much from Amsterdam of which we'll probably never be aware (and I'm not talking about land and cities).
Meh, don't think so; and that's probably a good thing. Amsterdammers are annoying.
 

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Let's leave aside obvious inheritances such as republicanism and freedom of religion, and consider just the the broad fact that the Franks were always at the forefront of the civilization of Europe. But specifically I was thinking of the modern free market, which New York got from London and London from Amsterdam.
 

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Cyrillic said:
Porter ODoran said:
America inherited so much from Amsterdam of which we'll probably never be aware (and I'm not talking about land and cities).
Meh, don't think so; and that's probably a good thing. Amsterdammers are annoying.
What is the non-annoying race of Netherlanders, then? ;)
 

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the Franks were always at the forefront of the civilization of Europe.
Huh? No, they weren't. Romans or Greeks are not Franks.
 

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Alpo said:
Porter ODoran said:
the Franks were always at the forefront of the civilization of Europe.
Huh? No, they weren't. Romans or Greeks are not Franks.
Of Germanic / Celtic Europe. I meant "Europe" as opposed to the dying Roman Empire -- or do we use the term "Barbary" if we are Orthodox? :p
 

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Porter ODoran said:
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America inherited so much from Amsterdam of which we'll probably never be aware (and I'm not talking about land and cities).
Meh, don't think so; and that's probably a good thing. Amsterdammers are annoying.
What is the non-annoying race of Netherlanders, then? ;)
Haven't found them yet.

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Let's leave aside obvious inheritances such as republicanism and freedom of religion, and consider just the the broad fact that the Franks were always at the forefront of the civilization of Europe. But specifically I was thinking of the modern free market, which New York got from London and London from Amsterdam.
True enough. But everything you got from the Dutch you got through the English.
 

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I liked the Dutch when I was over there.  They seemed much nicer than many other parts of Europe.
 

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I liked the Dutch when I was over there.  They seemed much nicer than many other parts of Europe.
They speak funny German though.
 

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Cyrillic said:
Porter ODoran said:
Cyrillic said:
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America inherited so much from Amsterdam of which we'll probably never be aware (and I'm not talking about land and cities).
Meh, don't think so; and that's probably a good thing. Amsterdammers are annoying.
What is the non-annoying race of Netherlanders, then? ;)
Haven't found them yet.

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Let's leave aside obvious inheritances such as republicanism and freedom of religion, and consider just the the broad fact that the Franks were always at the forefront of the civilization of Europe. But specifically I was thinking of the modern free market, which New York got from London and London from Amsterdam.
True enough. But everything you got from the Dutch you got through the English.
Mostly true but not entirely. Large parties of our Founders split their time between England and Holland before settling in America.
 

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john_mo said:
TheTrisagion said:
I liked the Dutch when I was over there.  They seemed much nicer than many other parts of Europe.
They speak funny German though.
Dutch much easier on the ears (and that's saying something!)

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I liked the Dutch when I was over there.  They seemed much nicer than many other parts of Europe.
That's probably true, but you must internalise Dutchness to survive for a longer period, or you'll think everyone is rude or just plain evil for that matter.

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Mostly true but not entirely. Large parties of our Founders split their time between England and Holland before settling in America.
They only came for our money :)

But we were nice. We gave them money and we only got a war with England in return.
 

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Cyrillic said:
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Mostly true but not entirely. Large parties of our Founders split their time between England and Holland before settling in America.
They only came for our money :)
Well, there's that, but I am speaking of the 1600s and the groups that fled to Holland whenever British monarchs were against them.

However, it's not through these that America learned their most important Dutch lesson, It is money that rules the world.
 
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