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Just got back from watching a high school football game between a team of Old Believers on one side and a team from a private, Catholic institution on the other. Can you guess who won?
 

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Hawkeye said:
Just got back from watching a high school football game between a team of Old Believers on one side and a team from a private, Catholic institution on the other. Can you guess who won?
The old believers were probably good at rushin, but the Catholics probably have top notch facilities, trainers, coaches, etc. because of their exceptional organizational skills. I'm going to guess that the game plan for neither team was working, but while the old believers refused to change, the Catholics developed their plan, and so the Catholics won in the end?
 

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Justin Kissel said:
Hawkeye said:
Just got back from watching a high school football game between a team of Old Believers on one side and a team from a private, Catholic institution on the other. Can you guess who won?
The old believers were probably good at rushin, but the Catholics probably have top notch facilities, trainers, coaches, etc. because of their exceptional organizational skills. I'm going to guess that the game plan for neither team was working, but while the old believers refused to change, the Catholics developed their plan, and so the Catholics won in the end?
You're right on the money. At 14-26, the Catholics won this round. Since it was a home game too, I imagine my brothers in the Old Rite have gone home in disgrace.

You should have seen our athletes when I was in high school; they were champions! Not so much any more it seems.
 

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Didn't know Old Believer had their own schools?
Theoretically, the "Old Believer" schools out here are public but, due to their locations in out-of-the-way villages, they tend to lack any religious or ethnic diversity beyond the faculty. Roughly every decade or so, a non-Old Believer kid might start attending but they tend not to stay for the long haul. I recall one when was in kindergarten and another in 10th grade, neither of whom were there the following year.
 

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Porter ODoran said:
Orthodox of any kind just don't run their own schools, do they?
That's right. Starting a school involves organizing and organizing sounds suspiciously Catholic. Always remember Peter the Great. He started to organize Holy Russia and the result was Westertn Captivity. Who knows, maybe an own school would lead into mathematics which predisposes kids to Scholastisism. We wouldn't want that, wouldn't we?
 

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Orthodox of any kind just don't run their own schools, do they?
This site lists 54 Orthodox schools, and according to the Krindatch data there are about 800k Orthodox in America. That works out to about 14815 Orthodox for every 1 school. According to this site there are 6,594 Catholic schools in America, and there are about 78.2m Catholic Church members in America. That works out to about 11859 Catholics for every 1 Catholic school. Certainly the Orthodox don't have anything like the Catholics in reputation, size, etc., but based on how many schools we might expect the Orthodox to be able to support (financial and other resources) just based on Church membership numbers, things aren't so much different.
 

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Are they schools that teach Greek language? Colleges? Preschools? I know the one they list in Oregon is a preschool. It's surprising an organization with this name knows so little about the schools they list (even saying "these are the schools we've been able to identify" [emphasis mine]). Yet they make bold to offer a consultant for a daily fee and traveling expenses. What exactly is this organization?

Darn. Here I go sounding cynical, when, given there must be some truth to the list, I should be ecstatic (I like good schools). :)
 

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Saw this quote by Alan Watts: "You are an aperture through which the universe is looking at and exploring itself," and was reminded of the final signature of Entscheidungsproblem of thrice-blessed memory: "As a result of a thousand million years of evolution, the universe is becoming conscious of itself, able to understand something of its past history and its possible future."
 

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Porter ODoran said:
Are they schools that teach Greek language? Colleges? Preschools? I know the one they list in Oregon is a preschool....
I have no idea about the particulars of Orthodox schools up through the high school level. As for accredited schools of higher education in America that are Orthodox, so far as I can tell, there is one liberal arts school that grants Bachelors degrees, one liberal arts school that grants bachelors and masters degrees, two schools that grant a bachelors degree in Theology only, three seminaries/theological schools that grant Masters degrees related to theology/ministry, one seminary/theological school that grants both Masters degrees and a Doctoral degree, and various others (diploma and correspondence courses, several unaccredited seminary programs, etc.)  The Antiochians also are apparently associated with a Masters program and a Doctoral program, in conjunction (and largely based through) other schools not associated with the Archdiocese.
 

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No, I'm really happy to see the list of Orthodox schools. Excited, actually. The strangeness of that particular organization just threw me off guard. Thanks for the link.
 

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Saw this quote by Alan Watts: "You are an aperture through which the universe is looking at and exploring itself," and was reminded of the final signature of Entscheidungsproblem of thrice-blessed memory: "As a result of a thousand million years of evolution, the universe is becoming conscious of itself, able to understand something of its past history and its possible future."
An earnest young evangelist for atheistic thinking, aren't you? You don't tire, you don't flag. You don't lose your temper. I find it touching.
 

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Porter ODoran said:
Justin Kissel said:
Saw this quote by Alan Watts: "You are an aperture through which the universe is looking at and exploring itself," and was reminded of the final signature of Entscheidungsproblem of thrice-blessed memory: "As a result of a thousand million years of evolution, the universe is becoming conscious of itself, able to understand something of its past history and its possible future."
An earnest young evangelist for atheistic thinking, aren't you? You don't tire, you don't flag. You don't lose your temper. I find it touching.
Neither of you seem to tire, how do you both find the time for posting such long posts riddled with sophormorism while working 40 plus hours a week? At least one with a family as well?

Only if I had such unflagging energy!
 

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Porter ODoran said:
An earnest young evangelist for atheistic thinking, aren't you? You don't tire, you don't flag. You don't lose your temper. I find it touching.
I would love to have the kind of consistency you speak of! Though if I got to choose what to be consistent at, I wouldn't settle on either evangelism or atheism... 8)
 

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Daily Tidbit of Wisdom #212: "The eagle was killed with an arrow made with its own feathers." (Armenian saying)
 

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orthonorm said:
Porter ODoran said:
Justin Kissel said:
Saw this quote by Alan Watts: "You are an aperture through which the universe is looking at and exploring itself," and was reminded of the final signature of Entscheidungsproblem of thrice-blessed memory: "As a result of a thousand million years of evolution, the universe is becoming conscious of itself, able to understand something of its past history and its possible future."
An earnest young evangelist for atheistic thinking, aren't you? You don't tire, you don't flag. You don't lose your temper. I find it touching.
Neither of you seem to tire, how do you both find the time for posting such long posts riddled with sophormorism while working 40 plus hours a week? At least one with a family as well?

Only if I had such unflagging energy!
Sophomormonism. At least get your epithets right.

If I did work a fulltime desk job, you might find me online a lot more. A three-year-old and a nine-month-old are harsh mistresses.
 

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This image is 100 percent real.



I suspect it will inspire even more laughs than God's Not Dead's depictions of atheists.
I made a really dark joke about this site, where it claims "Find God's match in you."  A woman got raped when being matched with someone from this site.  So does that mean "Find God's wrath in you"?
 

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Such a site is an example of what can easily deceive the naive: Christian institutions and persons are not significantly more moral than average.
 

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Porter ODoran said:
orthonorm said:
Porter ODoran said:
Justin Kissel said:
Saw this quote by Alan Watts: "You are an aperture through which the universe is looking at and exploring itself," and was reminded of the final signature of Entscheidungsproblem of thrice-blessed memory: "As a result of a thousand million years of evolution, the universe is becoming conscious of itself, able to understand something of its past history and its possible future."
An earnest young evangelist for atheistic thinking, aren't you? You don't tire, you don't flag. You don't lose your temper. I find it touching.
Neither of you seem to tire, how do you both find the time for posting such long posts riddled with sophormorism while working 40 plus hours a week? At least one with a family as well?

Only if I had such unflagging energy!
Sophomormonism. At least get your epithets right.

If I did work a fulltime desk job, you might find me online a lot more. A three-year-old and a nine-month-old are harsh mistresses.
In addition -- tho I don't know why I feel compelled to reveal this here -- I do try to work from home, mostly programming, but I have an auto-immune illness that is making this difficult, with generalized pain and anxiety, mental disorientation, and other symptoms. Perhaps I come here to stew in old habits the way wiser patients would take a warm bath.

There is also something promising here, comforting here, whether or not in fact it is realized. What do you get out of OC.net? (The question is not just for Orthornorm. The question is probably rhetorical.)
 

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Porter ODoran said:
In addition -- tho I don't know why I feel compelled to reveal this here -- I do try to work from home, mostly programming, but I have an auto-immune illness that is making this difficult, with generalized pain and anxiety, mental disorientation, and other symptoms. Perhaps I come here to stew in old habits the way wiser patients would take a warm bath.

There is also something promising here, comforting here, whether or not in fact it is realized. What do you get out of OC.net? (The question is not just for Orthornorm. The question is probably rhetorical.)
Doubt.  ::)
 

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Daily Tidbit of Wisdom #213: Give a friend a hug, you'll thank yourself later.
 

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Under the weather and stayed home this morning, so I'm watching livestream of a GOC liturgy from the West Coast . . .but they opened using "bouncy" sounding organ accompaniment and a choir singing.  Sounds a lot like a catholic mass so far.  *After a few minutes* - Okay, they're chanting now. . .much better!
 

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Justin Kolodziej said:
Porter ODoran said:
In addition -- tho I don't know why I feel compelled to reveal this here -- I do try to work from home, mostly programming, but I have an auto-immune illness that is making this difficult, with generalized pain and anxiety, mental disorientation, and other symptoms. Perhaps I come here to stew in old habits the way wiser patients would take a warm bath.

There is also something promising here, comforting here, whether or not in fact it is realized. What do you get out of OC.net? (The question is not just for Orthornorm. The question is probably rhetorical.)
Doubt.  ::)
About what?
 

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-09-15/pennsylvania-drivers-account-for-10-of-deer-crashes.html


Deer Accident Statistics...


evidently you Pennsylvaniadox have issues with deer
 

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DeniseDenise said:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-09-15/pennsylvania-drivers-account-for-10-of-deer-crashes.html


Deer Accident Statistics...


evidently you Pennsylvaniadox have issues with deer
It is due to the number of St. Seraphim of Sarov-like saints we have that reside here.  We are just animal magnets.
 

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DeniseDenise said:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-09-15/pennsylvania-drivers-account-for-10-of-deer-crashes.html


Deer Accident Statistics...


evidently you Pennsylvaniadox have issues with deer
Years ago, a very, very tall deer tried to run me off the road. How rude! I let him go, though.
 

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Daily Tidbit of Wisdom #214: Stalin + Hitler = Staller. Don't be a Staller.
 

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Each Saturday night nominate three words as your possible WORD OF THE WEEK to be used during the seven days which follow. Write each word down on a slip of paper, drop the papers in a hat, and then pull one out at random. This is your WORD OF THE WEEK. Pepper the word throughout all your conversations--banter with coworkers, request for a vacation day, explaining to your spouse why the disgusting mess you left in the kitchen is not really your fault after all. The possibilities are endless. You have to choose your word nominees wisely, however. Three words recommended for WORD OF THE WEEK newbies, who are unused to the rigors of the process and need to be eased into it, are: ruffian, keister, and poppycock. Time and culture has proven the value of these classic words.
 

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Justin Kissel said:
Each Saturday night nominate three words as your possible WORD OF THE WEEK to be used during the seven days which follow. Write each word down on a slip of paper, drop the papers in a hat, and then pull one out at random. This is your WORD OF THE WEEK. Pepper the word throughout all your conversations...
This week, my word is actually three words: Most Holy Theotokos.
 

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Mor Ephrem said:
Justin Kissel said:
Each Saturday night nominate three words as your possible WORD OF THE WEEK to be used during the seven days which follow. Write each word down on a slip of paper, drop the papers in a hat, and then pull one out at random. This is your WORD OF THE WEEK. Pepper the word throughout all your conversations...
This week, my word is actually three words: Most Holy Theotokos.
It's perfectly normal for more advanced students of wordsmithing and wordhandling such as us to use several words or a slightly longer phrase. As for myself, I am eager to continue working into conversations my own WORD OF THE WEEK this week, 'tootsie pop explosion.'
 

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"Abba! Give me a word so that I might be saved!" the monk pleaded.

"Pray every day the words, 'Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy on me a sinner,'" Abba Hezekiah replied.

"Oh. That's kinda long, and sounds like a lot of work. I did specifically ask for just a word, which is to say one word..." the monk complained.

Abba Hezekiah just glared at the monk in annoyance.
 

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I keep coming to the realization that I am nothing, and will never be anything, besides an English student and hopefully scholar, so I might be wasting my time in education classes
 

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I keep coming to the realization that I am nothing, and will never be anything, besides an English student and hopefully scholar, so I might be wasting my time in education classes
Every town has schools. They will always need teachers.
 

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TheMathematician said:
I keep coming to the realization that I am nothing, and will never be anything, besides an English student and hopefully scholar, so I might be wasting my time in education classes

With that kind of mentality you won't.

Get your MA and enroll in a traineeship, preferably something in management. Wages will suck in the beginning but you'll be able to get a better job with the training and experience, even outside of management. Many traineeships only require a master's degree.  If you're in a fraternity or another such group volunteer for functions such as treasurer. It will look good on your CV. Perhaps get a job in retail.

Pimp your CV.

 

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Good morning, everyone! How are things on this cold morning?
 

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TheTrisagion said:
DeniseDenise said:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-09-15/pennsylvania-drivers-account-for-10-of-deer-crashes.html


Deer Accident Statistics...


evidently you Pennsylvaniadox have issues with deer
It is due to the number of St. Seraphim of Sarov-like saints we have that reside here.  We are just animal magnets.
LOL.
 
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