- Jul 24, 2010
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I don't give a about your apologetics. But know that your use of rhetoric wasn't lost on everyone.vamrat said:Just finished cup #2!ZealousZeal said:Wait... What? He came way after Caligula.vamrat said:I don't care what anyone says, I love Machiavelli. Unfortunately, the fact that The Prince was most likely satire is above most people, so he is just seen as some callous guy who inspired every dictatorship from Caligula to Mugabe.ironchapman said:LOL.Alpo said:This must a sign! He wants to be your Patron. St. Niccolo, pray for us!ironchapman said:Oh wow...I am writing a paper that is in part about Niccolo Machiavelli. While looking up some info a few minutes ago for a brief biographical sketch of his life, I find out that today is his birthday. What a coincidence!
I have a feeling I missed your point. Don't worry though, I have a fresh cup of coffee so it can only go up from here.
I used Caligula because Augustus is regularly considered a decent chap, and Tiberius, if you can get past the odd sexual bits in Suetonius doesn't appear to have been too awful as long as you weren't rich and on his [poop]-list. So Caligula was really one of the first really really super naughty emperors. I used the gross anachronism to stress my contempt for people who take The Prince as the defining writing of Machiavelli and don't read up (at least the Wikipedia article) on his life. There are only two motives for why he wrote The Prince in the way he did. Either A) he has a MASSIVE change of heart, or B) he was mocking the family who ruined his republic and tortured him.
Now you know how I feel all the time.