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Orthodox11 said:
I don't think it needs to be ethnic Scandinavians. The problem is that most of these immigrants are very poor and have neither the education nor the language abilities to find decent employment. In small numbers these can be integrated, but en masse it causes division. What you end up with are a poor underclass who feel disenfranchised and on the outside of society, while the rest of society look at them with suspicion. That this 'underclass' is Somali/Pakistani and Muslim isn't important in and of itself, but obviously heightens the sense of "otherness" which helps perpetuate the problem already there. It's not conducive to societal cohesion.
This is absolutely the problem. I 100% agree with you.


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Everyone on the West coast have a little bit of Spanish or Portuguese in them. You didn't get your dark hair from the vikings :p
Oh, I know. I don't have a problem with the inclusion of other ethnicity. More the death of the language and culture. From a regional aspect.
 

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This is the most uncomfortably racist things have gotten around here in a while.
How is it racist? Have you any idea it is not an issue of race, but an issue of culture? I never said, nor will say, any race is inferior. Please forgive me, but where did you assume the idea was a "racist"? My fiancee is hispanic after all.
 

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Are you ethnically affiliated with one of the tribes native to North America?  Please leave if the answer is no.
You obviously know the answer to that ridiculous question.

I speak English. I speak it fluently.

I'm not, nor any of my ethnic group, destroying American culture, or the language.

Plus, I blame the immigration problem on the GOVERNMENT, not the Immigrants.

And I am leaving in June.
 

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celticfan1888 said:
That person said:
This is the most uncomfortably racist things have gotten around here in a while.
How is it racist? Have you any idea it is not an issue of race, but an issue of culture? I never said, nor will say, any race is inferior. Please forgive me, but where did you assume the idea was a "racist"? My fiancee is hispanic after all.
"Culture" is the word Europeans use to mask their xenophobia.
 

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orthonorm said:
celticfan1888 said:
That person said:
This is the most uncomfortably racist things have gotten around here in a while.
How is it racist? Have you any idea it is not an issue of race, but an issue of culture? I never said, nor will say, any race is inferior. Please forgive me, but where did you assume the idea was a "racist"? My fiancee is hispanic after all.
"Culture" is the word Europeans use to mask their xenophobia.
Do the Europeans have a bad case of xenophobia?
 

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orthonorm said:
celticfan1888 said:
That person said:
This is the most uncomfortably racist things have gotten around here in a while.
How is it racist? Have you any idea it is not an issue of race, but an issue of culture? I never said, nor will say, any race is inferior. Please forgive me, but where did you assume the idea was a "racist"? My fiancee is hispanic after all.
"Culture" is the word Europeans use to mask their xenophobia.
Exactly. When "preservation of culture" amounts to attempting to exclude other "cultures" from the country, it is indistinguishable from racism.
 

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Iconodule said:
orthonorm said:
celticfan1888 said:
That person said:
This is the most uncomfortably racist things have gotten around here in a while.
How is it racist? Have you any idea it is not an issue of race, but an issue of culture? I never said, nor will say, any race is inferior. Please forgive me, but where did you assume the idea was a "racist"? My fiancee is Hispanic after all.
"Culture" is the word Europeans use to mask their xenophobia.
Exactly. When "preservation of culture" amounts to attempting to exclude other "cultures" from the country, it is indistinguishable from racism.
My Hispanic fiancee disagrees with you.

Plus, I never wanted to "exclude" anyone. Stop putting words in my mouth. You are acting like I want to ban immigration or something.
 

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Please take your non-random serious talk to the free-for-all section  :police:
 

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Achronos said:
orthonorm said:
celticfan1888 said:
That person said:
This is the most uncomfortably racist things have gotten around here in a while.
How is it racist? Have you any idea it is not an issue of race, but an issue of culture? I never said, nor will say, any race is inferior. Please forgive me, but where did you assume the idea was a "racist"? My fiancee is hispanic after all.
"Culture" is the word Europeans use to mask their xenophobia.
Do the Europeans have a bad case of xenophobia?
In the day to day, it is staggeringly worse than it is here. And for the last decade certainly we've seen political establishment examples within many European countries to protect their "culture".

Celticfan, how do you say Leitkultur in Norwegian?
 

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So orthonorm, how would I get treated as a tourist then hahaha.

christian7777 said:
Time to restore the randomness: My favorite flavor of Cheez-Its is Hot & Spicy.
Yeah that is amazing.
 

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Achronos said:
Do the Europeans have a bad case of xenophobia?
In northern Europe, only if you're Muslim. It's very rare to hear anyone say anything about race. Islamophobia is the big issue.

Southern and Eastern Europe are something else.
 

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Orthodox11 said:
Achronos said:
Do the Europeans have a bad case of xenophobia?
In northern Europe, only if you're Muslim. It's very rare to hear anyone say anything about race. Islamophobia is the big issue.

Southern and Eastern Europe are something else.
Cause of how insular Northern Europe has been able to remain.

I spent enough time around Swedes and Norwegians to know. If you consider Denmark, Germany, etc. "Northern Europe" it ain't just Muslims.
 

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Achronos said:
So orthonorm, how would I get treated as a tourist then hahaha.

christian7777 said:
Time to restore the randomness: My favorite flavor of Cheez-Its is Hot & Spicy.
Yeah that is amazing.
You're short. Just dress like you do in that one photo and you should be fine.

(White) Americans are beloved throughout Europe, if you ain't a total goof. And you ain't.

If you were black. Different story.
 

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I've seen enough German porn to know that they are in no position to be pointing fingers at others...
 

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orthonorm said:
Achronos said:
So orthonorm, how would I get treated as a tourist then hahaha.

christian7777 said:
Time to restore the randomness: My favorite flavor of Cheez-Its is Hot & Spicy.
Yeah that is amazing.
You're short. Just dress like you do in that one photo and you should be fine.

(White) Americans are beloved throughout Europe, if you ain't a total goof. And you ain't.

If you were black. Different story.
Hey are there any rich European girls that love white americans?

This is something to discriminate about.

EDIT: As far as certain groups. I thought their was a particular class of French women that love white American males.
 
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