- May 22, 2015
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Indeed, cosmic injustice and tragedy abounds in the arts. This seems almost normative. It stinks too that a lot of times you only get credit after you die or retire.Iconodule said:Right, any genre of entertainment with a modicum of following is going to be flooded with mediocrity (see Sturgeon's law).William T said:It may be a peculiarly English speaking world phenomenon. Generally speaking though, most people will only enjoy about 5% of any given genre of anything and not care about the rest. But as most anyone who has gone to random comedy shows or amateur nights will tell you, that 1% of comdiens being good may be an over-estimation. It's a very tough trade.Cyrillic said:Having your teeth pulled out is more enjoyable than watching 99% of comedians.William T said:the evil world according to Porter:Porter ODoran said:Don't see how you could get much joy out of any of these guys. They seem just -- evil. There have to be better comedians out there.
or maybe this one:
Anywho, Bill Hicks is probably one of the top 20 stand ups. I've heard about the Leary plagiarism, but I tend to not trust artists when they say someone stole something from them. That's a famous artist war cry.
What's frustrating though is when some of the worst acts also happen to become some of the most popular.
Though musically there seems to be a kind of Faustian twist to even the old norms:
I was joking to my old band mate the other day how there is now essentially a punk rock "Dick Clark Golden Oldies" demand right now which is so ironic. I think the punk rock ethos generally had it right, and now that's selling out and listening to this a lot of stuff seems decontextualized and anodyne anymore (some of this comes with age, but I think some has come with cultural shifts / the internet as well)...not that I can blame any of these guys. If someone offered me 100K to do a tour, I would.
Thinking about this I think the obvious corporate model has a lot to do with sucking the life out of things, but I think there is more to it than that as well. General "taste making" Salon cultures will always be with us, and the internet adds a new element to the mix for better and worse