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Saint Nikodemos the Hagiorite On Masturbation

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Masturbation is a sin so abhorrent to God that on account of it He put to death Onan, the son of Judah, the son of Jacob, because he was the first to commit the act upon the earth, and it is therefore also calledonanism. For the Holy Scripture says in genesis (38:10): “And the thing which he (Onan) did appeared asevil before god: wherefore He slew him.” And it is an opinion of many teachers that God so strongly abhorred those prideful philosophers of the Greeks that he allowed them to be ruled by this sin as a  punishment for their idolatry, for having come to know God, they failed to glorify Him as God. This is inferred from that which divine Paul says about them: “Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves” (Rom. 1:24), where by the expression “their own bodies between themselves” he was referring to masturbation, during
which the body both acts upon itself and suffers an action of its own. Masturbation, says John of the Ladder (Step 15, p. 108), is fornication performed without another body, by which sin that great Anchorite fell, concerning whom the divine Anthony said: “A great pillar has fallen” (The Sayings of the  Desert Fathers, p. 4).
The same John calls masturbation death and perdition (Ibid.), which death is always  present and borne about with us, especially during the time of our youth. Therefore, it is very difficult to abstain from it and for one to repent who has even once been caught in its snare. That is why one teacher likens masturbation to a great net of the devil and of Hades, by means whereof he has drawn the world to perdition, and many are caught in it, but only a few of them ever escape from it, and the devil’s heart rejoices on account of his hunting so much with this net, and he burns incense to it because it has caught much food and many souls, as Habakkuk says (1:15-
16): “He takes it (the world) up with the hook, he catches it in his net, and gathers it in his drag: therefore his heart rejoices and is glad, and sacrifices unto his net, and burns incense unto his drag; because by them his portion is fat, and his meat plenteous.” But
why say so much? Masturbation not only causes the soul eternal harm, but also harms the health of the body. The soul is harmed because it deprives it of the kingdom of heaven, and condemns it to eternal hell, as Paul says: “Be
not deceived: neither fornicators, nor adulterers, nor masturbators, nor idolators...shall inherit the
kingdom of God” (I Cor. 6:9-10). Although Chrysostom interpreted the word malakoi (what we interpret as masturbators0 to mean men who have become prostitutes, while Theophylact interprets it as those who submit to obscenity, yet many other teachers have understood it as meaning masturbators. Masturbation causes the soul to lose its virginity, which is the most valuable thing in the world, which if lost just once, is never regained. Never. It also causes the soul to offer a sacrifice to the devil with the seed of its body,
as St. Meletios the Confessor says (Translator’s note: St. Symeon the New Theologian says: “Just as the loathsome flow from the body and, if it may be so called, the pleasurable mingling of the heart with any passion so to speak constitutes a sacrifice offered by us to the devil” Catechetical Discourses 4. P. 87)

So then, this sin is like a pestilence and corruption of the human race, and causes masturbators to live here and now a disgraceful and miserable life, and to be tormented eternally in the next life in the fire of hell. The treatments for masturbation are two:

1)For them to make a firm resolve in their heart to never commit that sin again, and
2)For them not to place their hand near their middle members or look upon them, as much as this is  possible.

Therefore, my young brethren, guard yourselves for the love of God from this thrice-accursed passion, and if the lust of your flesh wars against you, do not postpone the time of your marriage (that is, as many as have not resolved to become monastics), but get married young, before falling into such an unnatural corruption of your virginity. For this is how divine Chrysostom commands children and their parents, saying: “When thy son is grown up, before he enters upon warfare, or any other course of life, consider of his marriage. And if he sees that thou wilt soon take a bride for him, and that the time intervening will be short, he will be able to endure the flame patiently. But if he perceives that thou art remiss and slow, and waitest until he shall acquire a large income, and then thou wilt contract a marriage for him, despairing at the length of time, he will readily fall into fornication” ( On I Thessalonians, Homily 5, 3, NPNF VI-13, p 346 )
 

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Onan was the first person to do that?

:eek:

Everyone who does that deserves to die of a heart attack?

:eek:

Wow.
 

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Peacemaker said:

Masturbation is a sin so abhorrent to God that on account of it He put to death Onan, the son of Judah, the son of Jacob, because he was the first to commit the act upon the earth, and it is therefore also calledonanism. For the Holy Scripture says in genesis (38:10): “And the thing which he (Onan) did appeared asevil before god: wherefore He slew him.” And it is an opinion of many teachers that God so strongly abhorred those prideful philosophers of the Greeks that he allowed them to be ruled by this sin as a  punishment for their idolatry, for having come to know God, they failed to glorify Him as God. This is inferred from that which divine Paul says about them: “Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves” (Rom. 1:24), where by the expression “their own bodies between themselves” he was referring to masturbation, during
which the body both acts upon itself and suffers an action of its own. Masturbation, says John of the Ladder (Step 15, p. 108), is fornication performed without another body, by which sin that great Anchorite fell, concerning whom the divine Anthony said: “A great pillar has fallen” (The Sayings of the  Desert Fathers, p. 4).
The same John calls masturbation death and perdition (Ibid.), which death is always  present and borne about with us, especially during the time of our youth. Therefore, it is very difficult to abstain from it and for one to repent who has even once been caught in its snare. That is why one teacher likens masturbation to a great net of the devil and of Hades, by means whereof he has drawn the world to perdition, and many are caught in it, but only a few of them ever escape from it, and the devil’s heart rejoices on account of his hunting so much with this net, and he burns incense to it because it has caught much food and many souls, as Habakkuk says (1:15-
16): “He takes it (the world) up with the hook, he catches it in his net, and gathers it in his drag: therefore his heart rejoices and is glad, and sacrifices unto his net, and burns incense unto his drag; because by them his portion is fat, and his meat plenteous.” But
why say so much? Masturbation not only causes the soul eternal harm, but also harms the health of the body. The soul is harmed because it deprives it of the kingdom of heaven, and condemns it to eternal hell, as Paul says: “Be
not deceived: neither fornicators, nor adulterers, nor masturbators, nor idolators...shall inherit the
kingdom of God” (I Cor. 6:9-10). Although Chrysostom interpreted the word malakoi (what we interpret as masturbators0 to mean men who have become prostitutes, while Theophylact interprets it as those who submit to obscenity, yet many other teachers have understood it as meaning masturbators. Masturbation causes the soul to lose its virginity, which is the most valuable thing in the world, which if lost just once, is never regained. Never. It also causes the soul to offer a sacrifice to the devil with the seed of its body,
as St. Meletios the Confessor says (Translator’s note: St. Symeon the New Theologian says: “Just as the loathsome flow from the body and, if it may be so called, the pleasurable mingling of the heart with any passion so to speak constitutes a sacrifice offered by us to the devil” Catechetical Discourses 4. P. 87)

So then, this sin is like a pestilence and corruption of the human race, and causes masturbators to live here and now a disgraceful and miserable life, and to be tormented eternally in the next life in the fire of hell. The treatments for masturbation are two:

1)For them to make a firm resolve in their heart to never commit that sin again, and
2)For them not to place their hand near their middle members or look upon them, as much as this is  possible.

Therefore, my young brethren, guard yourselves for the love of God from this thrice-accursed passion, and if the lust of your flesh wars against you, do not postpone the time of your marriage (that is, as many as have not resolved to become monastics), but get married young, before falling into such an unnatural corruption of your virginity. For this is how divine Chrysostom commands children and their parents, saying: “When thy son is grown up, before he enters upon warfare, or any other course of life, consider of his marriage. And if he sees that thou wilt soon take a bride for him, and that the time intervening will be short, he will be able to endure the flame patiently. But if he perceives that thou art remiss and slow, and waitest until he shall acquire a large income, and then thou wilt contract a marriage for him, despairing at the length of time, he will readily fall into fornication” ( On I Thessalonians, Homily 5, 3, NPNF VI-13, p 346 )
It appears that singles have moved on from just masturbation to the occasional hookup websites like Tinder. It's great to be a single, fornicator today.  ::)
 

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linguistic note: the word malakoi meant catamite, in Greek underwent a semantic shift around the 5th century to mean masturbator. THAT is why "many other teachers have understood it as meaning masturbators," under the influence of Stoicism, not Scripture.
 

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The youth today have porn at their fingers 24/7, of every disgusting type.
They have apps, sites, etc, that specialize in hookup sex 24/7.
They are bombarded by the MSM, which promotes degeneracy 24/7.
They are even being brainwashed into homosexuality, cross dressing, and medical doctors are helping them change their bodies.

Truly these are the hardest times for our youth. There is a #nofap movement online for the youth to not masturbate, and it was all started by the youth to combat this issue. Pray for them, voice your support if you can.

I think Patriarch Kirill was on point with his cell phones bringing in the age of the anti christ.


 

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ialmisry said:
linguistic note: the word malakoi meant catamite, in Greek underwent a semantic shift around the 5th century to mean masturbator.
If I'm not mistaken, that connotation has carried through to modern Greek.
 

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Tzimis said:
Peacemaker said:

Masturbation is a sin so abhorrent to God that on account of it He put to death Onan, the son of Judah, the son of Jacob, because he was the first to commit the act upon the earth, and it is therefore also calledonanism. For the Holy Scripture says in genesis (38:10): “And the thing which he (Onan) did appeared asevil before god: wherefore He slew him.” And it is an opinion of many teachers that God so strongly abhorred those prideful philosophers of the Greeks that he allowed them to be ruled by this sin as a  punishment for their idolatry, for having come to know God, they failed to glorify Him as God. This is inferred from that which divine Paul says about them: “Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves” (Rom. 1:24), where by the expression “their own bodies between themselves” he was referring to masturbation, during
which the body both acts upon itself and suffers an action of its own. Masturbation, says John of the Ladder (Step 15, p. 108), is fornication performed without another body, by which sin that great Anchorite fell, concerning whom the divine Anthony said: “A great pillar has fallen” (The Sayings of the  Desert Fathers, p. 4).
The same John calls masturbation death and perdition (Ibid.), which death is always  present and borne about with us, especially during the time of our youth. Therefore, it is very difficult to abstain from it and for one to repent who has even once been caught in its snare. That is why one teacher likens masturbation to a great net of the devil and of Hades, by means whereof he has drawn the world to perdition, and many are caught in it, but only a few of them ever escape from it, and the devil’s heart rejoices on account of his hunting so much with this net, and he burns incense to it because it has caught much food and many souls, as Habakkuk says (1:15-
16): “He takes it (the world) up with the hook, he catches it in his net, and gathers it in his drag: therefore his heart rejoices and is glad, and sacrifices unto his net, and burns incense unto his drag; because by them his portion is fat, and his meat plenteous.” But
why say so much? Masturbation not only causes the soul eternal harm, but also harms the health of the body. The soul is harmed because it deprives it of the kingdom of heaven, and condemns it to eternal hell, as Paul says: “Be
not deceived: neither fornicators, nor adulterers, nor masturbators, nor idolators...shall inherit the
kingdom of God” (I Cor. 6:9-10). Although Chrysostom interpreted the word malakoi (what we interpret as masturbators0 to mean men who have become prostitutes, while Theophylact interprets it as those who submit to obscenity, yet many other teachers have understood it as meaning masturbators. Masturbation causes the soul to lose its virginity, which is the most valuable thing in the world, which if lost just once, is never regained. Never. It also causes the soul to offer a sacrifice to the devil with the seed of its body,
as St. Meletios the Confessor says (Translator’s note: St. Symeon the New Theologian says: “Just as the loathsome flow from the body and, if it may be so called, the pleasurable mingling of the heart with any passion so to speak constitutes a sacrifice offered by us to the devil” Catechetical Discourses 4. P. 87)

So then, this sin is like a pestilence and corruption of the human race, and causes masturbators to live here and now a disgraceful and miserable life, and to be tormented eternally in the next life in the fire of hell. The treatments for masturbation are two:

1)For them to make a firm resolve in their heart to never commit that sin again, and
2)For them not to place their hand near their middle members or look upon them, as much as this is  possible.

Therefore, my young brethren, guard yourselves for the love of God from this thrice-accursed passion, and if the lust of your flesh wars against you, do not postpone the time of your marriage (that is, as many as have not resolved to become monastics), but get married young, before falling into such an unnatural corruption of your virginity. For this is how divine Chrysostom commands children and their parents, saying: “When thy son is grown up, before he enters upon warfare, or any other course of life, consider of his marriage. And if he sees that thou wilt soon take a bride for him, and that the time intervening will be short, he will be able to endure the flame patiently. But if he perceives that thou art remiss and slow, and waitest until he shall acquire a large income, and then thou wilt contract a marriage for him, despairing at the length of time, he will readily fall into fornication” ( On I Thessalonians, Homily 5, 3, NPNF VI-13, p 346 )
It appears that singles have moved on from just masturbation to the occasional hookup websites like Tinder. It's great to be a single, fornicator today.  ::)
The quote from St. John at the end is actually speaking against hooking up, not wacking off.
 

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ialmisry said:
Tzimis said:
Peacemaker said:

Masturbation is a sin so abhorrent to God that on account of it He put to death Onan, the son of Judah, the son of Jacob, because he was the first to commit the act upon the earth, and it is therefore also calledonanism. For the Holy Scripture says in genesis (38:10): “And the thing which he (Onan) did appeared asevil before god: wherefore He slew him.” And it is an opinion of many teachers that God so strongly abhorred those prideful philosophers of the Greeks that he allowed them to be ruled by this sin as a  punishment for their idolatry, for having come to know God, they failed to glorify Him as God. This is inferred from that which divine Paul says about them: “Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves” (Rom. 1:24), where by the expression “their own bodies between themselves” he was referring to masturbation, during
which the body both acts upon itself and suffers an action of its own. Masturbation, says John of the Ladder (Step 15, p. 108), is fornication performed without another body, by which sin that great Anchorite fell, concerning whom the divine Anthony said: “A great pillar has fallen” (The Sayings of the  Desert Fathers, p. 4).
The same John calls masturbation death and perdition (Ibid.), which death is always  present and borne about with us, especially during the time of our youth. Therefore, it is very difficult to abstain from it and for one to repent who has even once been caught in its snare. That is why one teacher likens masturbation to a great net of the devil and of Hades, by means whereof he has drawn the world to perdition, and many are caught in it, but only a few of them ever escape from it, and the devil’s heart rejoices on account of his hunting so much with this net, and he burns incense to it because it has caught much food and many souls, as Habakkuk says (1:15-
16): “He takes it (the world) up with the hook, he catches it in his net, and gathers it in his drag: therefore his heart rejoices and is glad, and sacrifices unto his net, and burns incense unto his drag; because by them his portion is fat, and his meat plenteous.” But
why say so much? Masturbation not only causes the soul eternal harm, but also harms the health of the body. The soul is harmed because it deprives it of the kingdom of heaven, and condemns it to eternal hell, as Paul says: “Be
not deceived: neither fornicators, nor adulterers, nor masturbators, nor idolators...shall inherit the
kingdom of God” (I Cor. 6:9-10). Although Chrysostom interpreted the word malakoi (what we interpret as masturbators0 to mean men who have become prostitutes, while Theophylact interprets it as those who submit to obscenity, yet many other teachers have understood it as meaning masturbators. Masturbation causes the soul to lose its virginity, which is the most valuable thing in the world, which if lost just once, is never regained. Never. It also causes the soul to offer a sacrifice to the devil with the seed of its body,
as St. Meletios the Confessor says (Translator’s note: St. Symeon the New Theologian says: “Just as the loathsome flow from the body and, if it may be so called, the pleasurable mingling of the heart with any passion so to speak constitutes a sacrifice offered by us to the devil” Catechetical Discourses 4. P. 87)

So then, this sin is like a pestilence and corruption of the human race, and causes masturbators to live here and now a disgraceful and miserable life, and to be tormented eternally in the next life in the fire of hell. The treatments for masturbation are two:

1)For them to make a firm resolve in their heart to never commit that sin again, and
2)For them not to place their hand near their middle members or look upon them, as much as this is  possible.

Therefore, my young brethren, guard yourselves for the love of God from this thrice-accursed passion, and if the lust of your flesh wars against you, do not postpone the time of your marriage (that is, as many as have not resolved to become monastics), but get married young, before falling into such an unnatural corruption of your virginity. For this is how divine Chrysostom commands children and their parents, saying: “When thy son is grown up, before he enters upon warfare, or any other course of life, consider of his marriage. And if he sees that thou wilt soon take a bride for him, and that the time intervening will be short, he will be able to endure the flame patiently. But if he perceives that thou art remiss and slow, and waitest until he shall acquire a large income, and then thou wilt contract a marriage for him, despairing at the length of time, he will readily fall into fornication” ( On I Thessalonians, Homily 5, 3, NPNF VI-13, p 346 )
It appears that singles have moved on from just masturbation to the occasional hookup websites like Tinder. It's great to be a single, fornicator today.  ::)
The quote from St. John at the end is actually speaking against hooking up, not wacking off.
It's speaking of not prolonging marriage.
 

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This part is about Confessing sexual sins.
 

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Rubricnigel said:
The youth today have porn at their fingers 24/7, of every disgusting type.
They have apps, sites, etc, that specialize in hookup sex 24/7.
They are bombarded by the MSM, which promotes degeneracy 24/7.
They are even being brainwashed into homosexuality, cross dressing, and medical doctors are helping them change their bodies.

Truly these are the hardest times for our youth. There is a #nofap movement online for the youth to not masturbate, and it was all started by the youth to combat this issue. Pray for them, voice your support if you can.

I think Patriarch Kirill was on point with his cell phones bringing in the age of the anti christ.
Agreed. The porn problem is horrifying
 

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Tzimis said:
It appears that singles have moved on from just masturbation to the occasional hookup websites like Tinder. It's great to be a single, fornicator today.  ::)
In that respect, single people are like married people.

Briven said:
Rubricnigel said:
The youth today have porn at their fingers 24/7, of every disgusting type.
They have apps, sites, etc, that specialize in hookup sex 24/7.
They are bombarded by the MSM, which promotes degeneracy 24/7.
They are even being brainwashed into homosexuality, cross dressing, and medical doctors are helping them change their bodies.

Truly these are the hardest times for our youth. There is a #nofap movement online for the youth to not masturbate, and it was all started by the youth to combat this issue. Pray for them, voice your support if you can.

I think Patriarch Kirill was on point with his cell phones bringing in the age of the anti christ.
Agreed. The porn problem is horrifying
It really is. Masturbation hurts one soul, fornication two, and a porn video hurts so many souls it's terrifying.
 

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Tzimis said:
ialmisry said:
Tzimis said:
Peacemaker said:

Masturbation is a sin so abhorrent to God that on account of it He put to death Onan, the son of Judah, the son of Jacob, because he was the first to commit the act upon the earth, and it is therefore also calledonanism. For the Holy Scripture says in genesis (38:10): “And the thing which he (Onan) did appeared asevil before god: wherefore He slew him.” And it is an opinion of many teachers that God so strongly abhorred those prideful philosophers of the Greeks that he allowed them to be ruled by this sin as a  punishment for their idolatry, for having come to know God, they failed to glorify Him as God. This is inferred from that which divine Paul says about them: “Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves” (Rom. 1:24), where by the expression “their own bodies between themselves” he was referring to masturbation, during
which the body both acts upon itself and suffers an action of its own. Masturbation, says John of the Ladder (Step 15, p. 108), is fornication performed without another body, by which sin that great Anchorite fell, concerning whom the divine Anthony said: “A great pillar has fallen” (The Sayings of the  Desert Fathers, p. 4).
The same John calls masturbation death and perdition (Ibid.), which death is always  present and borne about with us, especially during the time of our youth. Therefore, it is very difficult to abstain from it and for one to repent who has even once been caught in its snare. That is why one teacher likens masturbation to a great net of the devil and of Hades, by means whereof he has drawn the world to perdition, and many are caught in it, but only a few of them ever escape from it, and the devil’s heart rejoices on account of his hunting so much with this net, and he burns incense to it because it has caught much food and many souls, as Habakkuk says (1:15-
16): “He takes it (the world) up with the hook, he catches it in his net, and gathers it in his drag: therefore his heart rejoices and is glad, and sacrifices unto his net, and burns incense unto his drag; because by them his portion is fat, and his meat plenteous.” But
why say so much? Masturbation not only causes the soul eternal harm, but also harms the health of the body. The soul is harmed because it deprives it of the kingdom of heaven, and condemns it to eternal hell, as Paul says: “Be
not deceived: neither fornicators, nor adulterers, nor masturbators, nor idolators...shall inherit the
kingdom of God” (I Cor. 6:9-10). Although Chrysostom interpreted the word malakoi (what we interpret as masturbators0 to mean men who have become prostitutes, while Theophylact interprets it as those who submit to obscenity, yet many other teachers have understood it as meaning masturbators. Masturbation causes the soul to lose its virginity, which is the most valuable thing in the world, which if lost just once, is never regained. Never. It also causes the soul to offer a sacrifice to the devil with the seed of its body,
as St. Meletios the Confessor says (Translator’s note: St. Symeon the New Theologian says: “Just as the loathsome flow from the body and, if it may be so called, the pleasurable mingling of the heart with any passion so to speak constitutes a sacrifice offered by us to the devil” Catechetical Discourses 4. P. 87)

So then, this sin is like a pestilence and corruption of the human race, and causes masturbators to live here and now a disgraceful and miserable life, and to be tormented eternally in the next life in the fire of hell. The treatments for masturbation are two:

1)For them to make a firm resolve in their heart to never commit that sin again, and
2)For them not to place their hand near their middle members or look upon them, as much as this is  possible.

Therefore, my young brethren, guard yourselves for the love of God from this thrice-accursed passion, and if the lust of your flesh wars against you, do not postpone the time of your marriage (that is, as many as have not resolved to become monastics), but get married young, before falling into such an unnatural corruption of your virginity. For this is how divine Chrysostom commands children and their parents, saying: “When thy son is grown up, before he enters upon warfare, or any other course of life, consider of his marriage. And if he sees that thou wilt soon take a bride for him, and that the time intervening will be short, he will be able to endure the flame patiently. But if he perceives that thou art remiss and slow, and waitest until he shall acquire a large income, and then thou wilt contract a marriage for him, despairing at the length of time, he will readily fall into fornication” ( On I Thessalonians, Homily 5, 3, NPNF VI-13, p 346 )
It appears that singles have moved on from just masturbation to the occasional hookup websites like Tinder. It's great to be a single, fornicator today.  ::)
The quote from St. John at the end is actually speaking against hooking up, not wacking off.
It's speaking of not prolonging marriage.
no, he has gone on to what he sees as the outcome of prolonging marriage, i.e. fornication.
 

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Question: what did Catamite refer to before the 5th century change in meaning, and was this semantic shift primarily the work of the Stoic philosophical school?
 

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ialmisry said:
Tzimis said:
ialmisry said:
Tzimis said:
Peacemaker said:

Masturbation is a sin so abhorrent to God that on account of it He put to death Onan, the son of Judah, the son of Jacob, because he was the first to commit the act upon the earth, and it is therefore also calledonanism. For the Holy Scripture says in genesis (38:10): “And the thing which he (Onan) did appeared asevil before god: wherefore He slew him.” And it is an opinion of many teachers that God so strongly abhorred those prideful philosophers of the Greeks that he allowed them to be ruled by this sin as a  punishment for their idolatry, for having come to know God, they failed to glorify Him as God. This is inferred from that which divine Paul says about them: “Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves” (Rom. 1:24), where by the expression “their own bodies between themselves” he was referring to masturbation, during
which the body both acts upon itself and suffers an action of its own. Masturbation, says John of the Ladder (Step 15, p. 108), is fornication performed without another body, by which sin that great Anchorite fell, concerning whom the divine Anthony said: “A great pillar has fallen” (The Sayings of the  Desert Fathers, p. 4).
The same John calls masturbation death and perdition (Ibid.), which death is always  present and borne about with us, especially during the time of our youth. Therefore, it is very difficult to abstain from it and for one to repent who has even once been caught in its snare. That is why one teacher likens masturbation to a great net of the devil and of Hades, by means whereof he has drawn the world to perdition, and many are caught in it, but only a few of them ever escape from it, and the devil’s heart rejoices on account of his hunting so much with this net, and he burns incense to it because it has caught much food and many souls, as Habakkuk says (1:15-
16): “He takes it (the world) up with the hook, he catches it in his net, and gathers it in his drag: therefore his heart rejoices and is glad, and sacrifices unto his net, and burns incense unto his drag; because by them his portion is fat, and his meat plenteous.” But
why say so much? Masturbation not only causes the soul eternal harm, but also harms the health of the body. The soul is harmed because it deprives it of the kingdom of heaven, and condemns it to eternal hell, as Paul says: “Be
not deceived: neither fornicators, nor adulterers, nor masturbators, nor idolators...shall inherit the
kingdom of God” (I Cor. 6:9-10). Although Chrysostom interpreted the word malakoi (what we interpret as masturbators0 to mean men who have become prostitutes, while Theophylact interprets it as those who submit to obscenity, yet many other teachers have understood it as meaning masturbators. Masturbation causes the soul to lose its virginity, which is the most valuable thing in the world, which if lost just once, is never regained. Never. It also causes the soul to offer a sacrifice to the devil with the seed of its body,
as St. Meletios the Confessor says (Translator’s note: St. Symeon the New Theologian says: “Just as the loathsome flow from the body and, if it may be so called, the pleasurable mingling of the heart with any passion so to speak constitutes a sacrifice offered by us to the devil” Catechetical Discourses 4. P. 87)

So then, this sin is like a pestilence and corruption of the human race, and causes masturbators to live here and now a disgraceful and miserable life, and to be tormented eternally in the next life in the fire of hell. The treatments for masturbation are two:

1)For them to make a firm resolve in their heart to never commit that sin again, and
2)For them not to place their hand near their middle members or look upon them, as much as this is  possible.

Therefore, my young brethren, guard yourselves for the love of God from this thrice-accursed passion, and if the lust of your flesh wars against you, do not postpone the time of your marriage (that is, as many as have not resolved to become monastics), but get married young, before falling into such an unnatural corruption of your virginity. For this is how divine Chrysostom commands children and their parents, saying: “When thy son is grown up, before he enters upon warfare, or any other course of life, consider of his marriage. And if he sees that thou wilt soon take a bride for him, and that the time intervening will be short, he will be able to endure the flame patiently. But if he perceives that thou art remiss and slow, and waitest until he shall acquire a large income, and then thou wilt contract a marriage for him, despairing at the length of time, he will readily fall into fornication” ( On I Thessalonians, Homily 5, 3, NPNF VI-13, p 346 )
It appears that singles have moved on from just masturbation to the occasional hookup websites like Tinder. It's great to be a single, fornicator today.  ::)
The quote from St. John at the end is actually speaking against hooking up, not wacking off.
It's speaking of not prolonging marriage.
no, he has gone on to what he sees as the outcome of prolonging marriage, i.e. fornication.
Both and he states that about those who have chosen to live in the world as apposed to a life of monasticism.
 

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Tzimis said:
It appears that singles have moved on from just masturbation to the occasional hookup websites like Tinder. It's great to be a single, fornicator today.
Supposing Tinder had banned you from their service, which would you choose as the next best option? Asking for a friend!
 

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Asteriktos said:
Tzimis said:
It appears that singles have moved on from just masturbation to the occasional hookup websites like Tinder. It's great to be a single, fornicator today.
Supposing Tinder had banned you from their service, which would you choose as the next best option? Asking for a friend!
You too?!
 

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Asteriktos said:
Tzimis said:
It appears that singles have moved on from just masturbation to the occasional hookup websites like Tinder. It's great to be a single, fornicator today.
Supposing Tinder had banned you from their service, which would you choose as the next best option? Asking for a friend!
Well, maybe you can CC: Harvey Weinstein.
 

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Asteriktos said:
Tzimis said:
It appears that singles have moved on from just masturbation to the occasional hookup websites like Tinder. It's great to be a single, fornicator today.
Supposing Tinder had banned you from their service, which would you choose as the next best option? Asking for a friend!
1. My parish. I believe there is one single guy there.

2. The local pub. Sometimes they have nice music.
 
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