serb1389 said:
ozgeorge said:
"It would be better for humanity and the worse for the fishes if all OCA & AOAA Bishops and Priests were thrown into the sea."- discuss.
We just had a priest from the EP make some HUGE statements about Met. Jonah and Met. Philip at our school. When the text becomes available i'll make sure to put it up for all.
I think i'll try to summarize some of his statements:
Met. Jonah has said that "no one accepts the primacy of the EP based on Canon 28 of Chalcedon" (paraphrase). The response question was: how come then several patriarchates were created and funneled through the EP. The Moscow Patriarchate was created from the EP, who GAVE the OCA their "autocephaly"...So, the very case of his church is based on the primacy of the EP.
Nonsense. It's based on Constantinople's autocephaly, but not it's primacy: related, but not identifcal things, and if he is towing the standard EP line of late, the distintion is useful to keep in mind. I'lll be gettin to this eventually, God willing, on the Autocephaly thread.
Btw, in reference to that, yes, several patriarchates were created and funneled through the EP, from territory belonging to Rome: Bulgaria, Czech and Slovak lands (depending on how much continuity you want to stress from St. Methodius, and how much we want to stress that a core of the present Church are WRO Latin converts, gone Eastern), Serbia (the land, but not it seems the people had a history under Rome), Romania, Albania. Even Greece was originally Roman territory.
In any case, wasn't Met. Jonah going to the Phanar? Should make interesting talk over tea and Turkish delights.