Salpy
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I'd like to discuss the ninth article of the Second Agreed Statement:
I think most, although not all, of the theologians who have in recent years studied the Christologies of the EO and OO Churches have come to the conclusion that we basically have the same faith.
However, someone in another thread has brought up a phrase in the above statement that indicates we have always believed the same thing:
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Before we start, I want to give a proactive warning to those who want to participate in this thread, both OO and EO:
I realize that this topic has the potential to wax polemical. I want to have it in the public forum, however, so that we can have a wider group participating. I am therefore hoping we can discuss this in a way that is respectful toward those we disagree with, and toward those Churches we are not in communion with. I would like to discuss our Church Fathers' attitudes in an historical context and not use those attitudes and beliefs in a way that can be seen as attacking another Church. I'm asking all who participate in this thread to not cross that line.
I also do not want any bashing of bishops or patriarchs here. We can express disagreement with hierarchs, but please do it in a way that is respectful.
Thank you.
http://www.orthodoxunity.org/state02.html9. In the light of our Agreed Statement on Christology as well as of the above common affirmations, we have now clearly understood that both families have always loyally maintained the same authentic Orthodox Christological faith, and the unbroken continuity of the apostolic tradition, though they have used Christological terms in different ways. It is this common faith and continuous loyalty to the Apostolic Tradition that should be the basis for our unity and communion.
I think most, although not all, of the theologians who have in recent years studied the Christologies of the EO and OO Churches have come to the conclusion that we basically have the same faith.
However, someone in another thread has brought up a phrase in the above statement that indicates we have always believed the same thing:
The question is, doesn't this say that our Fathers were mistaken in rejecting Chalcedon? Doesn't this say that the Chalcedonians had an Orthodox Christology even back when our Fathers were saying they didn't? What are the implications of this phrase for our Church?we have now clearly understood that both families have always loyally maintained the same authentic Orthodox Christological faith, and the unbroken continuity of the apostolic tradition
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Before we start, I want to give a proactive warning to those who want to participate in this thread, both OO and EO:
I realize that this topic has the potential to wax polemical. I want to have it in the public forum, however, so that we can have a wider group participating. I am therefore hoping we can discuss this in a way that is respectful toward those we disagree with, and toward those Churches we are not in communion with. I would like to discuss our Church Fathers' attitudes in an historical context and not use those attitudes and beliefs in a way that can be seen as attacking another Church. I'm asking all who participate in this thread to not cross that line.
I also do not want any bashing of bishops or patriarchs here. We can express disagreement with hierarchs, but please do it in a way that is respectful.
Thank you.