To which you believe existed.. That's fine, but does that require ignoring the rest of the world and the facts surrounding that belief? I think this is where we have a break in the bridge between us.. In perspective, that would be similar to difference between Orthodox Christianity and the Mormons. Hence, as an example, you as and Orthodox Christian can sit there and provide all the evidence of how their beliefs are constructed on fraudulent archeology and a reformed Egyptian language doesn't even exist with no willingness from them to admit those facts.. That's similarly the break in the bridge we are having here. However, the interesting part is that I am sure that you and I would agree that the Mormon faith is based on Joseph Smiths fraudulent claims of Egyptians scrolls being the second book of Abraham. Now if they could provide direct evidence that proves their claim, to which includes the supposed golden tablets, I would be more open to considering their positions with some credibility. This is the sort of evidence I would require from you.. This has a lot to do with why I left Christianity, and it's a valid position to take when all I am essentially given is a Carl Sagan dragon ":/We aren't baking a cake here pal. Add a little of this or that. Our belief is based on a particular person.