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RaphaCam said:
Where did you find about that piece of awesome?
It was brought to church on Sunday by the Ft Ross docent who found it.  She had previously discussed and shown it to the abbess of a local monastery and our clergy.
 

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That's nuts. It must have taken quite a bit of work. I'd love to hear the artist's rationale- hopefully he'll come forward.
 

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Elisha said:
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Another attempt.
LOL.
It kept saying the file was too big when I tried uploading from my iphone...even though it is only 92K when I upload to FB then download to my desktop.
Sorry.  I was LOLing at the icon, not your attempt to share it. 
 

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Mor Ephrem said:
Iconodule said:
That's nuts. It must have taken quite a bit of work. I'd love to hear the artist's rationale- hopefully he'll come forward.
What if it's "not made by hands"?
And/or...not made by a sane person?  (You know....coping the surrounding Mac form of wiki instead of just the image)
 

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Elisha said:
Mor Ephrem said:
Iconodule said:
That's nuts. It must have taken quite a bit of work. I'd love to hear the artist's rationale- hopefully he'll come forward.
What if it's "not made by hands"?
And/or...not made by a sane person?  (You know....coping the surrounding Mac form of wiki instead of just the image)
maybe they wanted to get it more realistic
 

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Ugh! This icon is clearly uncanonical.
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It lacks the proper IC XC and cruciform halo.  :p
 

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HaydenTE said:


Ugh! This icon is clearly uncanonical.
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It lacks the proper IC XC and cruciform halo.  :p
The Trump hands are unsettling.
 

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hecma925 said:
Re: The first one, I have seen some advocating for Dmitri (Royster)'s canonization. (I have no opinion, since I know little about him except that he retired not long after I started attending a DOS church.) I've been watching with one eye for the Internet to crank out an icon of him and a couple of other celebrated American Orthodox who died in recent years.
 

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What's strange about the St Dmitri of Rostov icon? (aside from it being rather bland)

On second thought, he is blessing with two fingers, which would be unlikely.
 

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Iconodule said:
What's strange about the St Dmitri of Rostov icon? (aside from it being rather bland)

On second thought, he is blessing with two fingers, which would be unlikely.
I think it was in comparison to the one "of Dallas."
 

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Just Google icons of St. Dmitri of Rostov and tell me what you see.  Im on my phone, so its a bit hard to get the image tag right.
 

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Agabus said:
Iconodule said:
What's strange about the St Dmitri of Rostov icon? (aside from it being rather bland)

On second thought, he is blessing with two fingers, which would be unlikely.
I think it was in comparison to the one "of Dallas."
Yes.  The "of Rostov" icon is in the Cathedral in Dallas, which gives me a hearty laff.
 

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Well, there is a limitted number of ways one can paint bald old men with gray bears. Or any other type of person, actually. All women on icons also look the same.
 

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RaphaCam said:
The person who wrote the second icon probably just messed it up when writing the name, St. Dmitri of Rostov looks very different in other icons.
No, it was quite intentional.  The same person painted both.

 

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I don't know.  Maybe scrape off "of Rostov" when the time comes.  Saves time.
 

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Iconodule said:
What's strange about the St Dmitri of Rostov icon? (aside from it being rather bland)
Not only bland, but this is how he is usually depicted (I've never seen an "old man" looking version of him):
 

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hecma925 said:
The depiction is a bit icky, and not an essential detail, but it does have a reason. From the life if the saint:

Thrown into prison, Paraskevi asked God to give her the strength to face the terror which awaited her. Antonius again continued the torture by having her hung by her hair and her hands and arms burned with torches. The Saint suffered greatly, but had the will not to submit to the pain. Antonius then prepared a large kettle of oil and tar, boiled the mixture and then had Paraskevi immersed in it. Miraculously she stood as if she were being cooled rather than burned. Angered, Antonius thought that she was using magic to keep the contents cool, but the Saint told him that he could test it. She took some of the boiling liquid and threw it in the Emperor's face. It burned his eyes and blinded him. She stepped out of the kettle and went to Antonius, telling him that only the Christian God could cure him. Immediately, he regained his sight and humbled by the miracle he freed the Saint and ended all persecutions against the Christians throughout the Roman Empire.

St Paraskevi's intercession is often invoked by people with eye ailments.

Eyes painted into a platter are surely better than this sort of depiction. The paintings are of St Lucia of Syracuse, who was blinded as part of her martyrdom:





Detail of the above:



 

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biro said:
Why is St. Raphael standing on a fish?
The fish is part of the story of Tobias and the archangel, in the OT book of Tobit.  :)
 

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Is this a common thing, icons of Adam and Eve? With halos? Are the considered saints in the Orthodox Church?
 

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Is this a common thing, icons of Adam and Eve? With halos? Are the considered saints in the Orthodox Church?
Icons of Adam and Eve are not common. However, Adam and Eve, along with the other OT figures who form Christ's genealogy, are commemorated liturgically in the Sunday of the Forefathers, prior to the Nativity of Christ. Therefore icons of them are fine.
 

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LBK said:
HaydenTE said:


Is this a common thing, icons of Adam and Eve? With halos? Are the considered saints in the Orthodox Church?
Icons of Adam and Eve are not common. However, Adam and Eve, along with the other OT figures who form Christ's genealogy, are commemorated liturgically in the Sunday of the Forefathers, prior to the Nativity of Christ. Therefore icons of them are fine.
Interesting, so it is not common see them venerated individually. but in the context of Christ's ancestors. It is a showing of God's mercy, that even those who started the chain of sin can be made venerable.
 
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