Such as? Do include other ones that form the basis of Christian theology. DO NOT include terms adapted from pagan philosophy to explain the Christian Faith.elijahmaria said:This is all hocus-pocus since the Church over the centuries has Christianized many many more pagan philosophical concepts than just this.ialmisry said:It was brought to my attention recently that Noonan, in his magnus opus on the matter, points out that the Vatican's teaching on the subject matter of HV comes directly from Stoicism, a conclusion I have otherwise come to. For one thing, that is starkly brought out by the CCC's quotation of the Stoic Cicero for its "Natural Law," the basis of HV.elijahmaria said:Only the very most ignorant will follow you in this.ialmisry said:yes, sort of like how Descartes using "cogito ergo sum" to pay lip service to God, and then go dream up whatever he wants.elijahmaria said:The "natural law" in the understanding of the Church is nothing more than God's Providence in Creation...all driven by Caritas.
The Vatican's understanding is all driven by scholasticism, nothing more than pagan philosophy with a Christian veneer.
Ordinarily we would all have to defer to your experience and expertise in ranting, but you have an axe to grind in this one.elijahmaria said:Your rants against natural law...are just that...rantings.
As for the evidence I've assembled and posted against "Natural Law", along with the arguments thereof, well, we can't be suprised that you continue to ignore that.
Given the date on Noonan's work,elijahmaria said:And then you find someone who agrees with you...wow!! :laugh:
it would seem he assembled his evidence before my conception.